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H4350 and 30-06 case cartridges
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I was just reviewing notes, etc after several years of reloading and find that for several of my 30-06 based cases H4350 seems to be the best of the best powders. Calibers include 25-06, 280, 30-06, 338-06, 35 whelen. The only ugly duckling being 270 rem that prefers H4831.

Do others find this to be close to their experience or do I just need to try several other powders in some of these to maximize potential? Yes, RL 15 shows up in some cases such as the 338-06/35 Whelen but the H4350 still shines in that case as well.
 
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You might want to check out RL-22 for all that you listed.


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Thanks vapodog. I have tried it in the 25-06 but with my preferred 100 gr partition bullet it was not better than the H4350. I do use it in the 300 WM only at this time.

I will give it a go in a couple of the others.
 
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I was just reviewing notes, etc after several years of reloading and find that for several of my 30-06 based cases H4350 seems to be the best of the best powders. Calibers include 25-06, 280, 30-06, 338-06, 35 whelen. The only ugly duckling being 270 rem that prefers H4831.

Do others find this to be close to their experience or do I just need to try several other powders in some of these to maximize potential? Yes, RL 15 shows up in some cases such as the 338-06/35 Whelen but the H4350 still shines in that case as well.


Just wondering about your findings. Were the loads used the most accurate, provided the best velocities, or the overall most consistent at one or the other across the spread of calibers?

Reason I asked is I was considering cutting back on the numerous powders I have on hand for each different caliber or load. That being I had researched quite a few data sources, and this was one of a couple of the more frequently used powders across the spread of calibers I have and use. I was hoping to work with it a bit as well as H-4831 seeing as it was the other top listed.

Between the two I figured I could use up and cut back my powder count to only three or four, instead of a different powder for each rifle or load I use.


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I prefer Imr 4350 but I agree that it will handle a wide range of cartridges very well. You may not squeeze the last possible FPS from a cartridge but often you can.
Any time I start load hunting with a 30-06 based cartridge or with a boomer, the first powder I test is IMR4350.


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Mike, my criteria has been "most accurate" although velocity is not a forgotten for certain. While not a test over a great number of powders I have tried RL 17, RL 22, IMR 7828, IMR 4320 in several of the calibers. Actually I have stayed away from the IMR 4320 just because it has been noted as being "so close" to the H4350.
 
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H or I 4350 is very good all around powder so is Varget.

I standardized on Varget becuase it works well in th 308 and I shoot a lot of 308.


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my criteria has been "most accurate" although velocity is not a forgotten for certain.


Well this was about what I figured when I considered it. I shoot mostly calibers based off the .308 or '06 cases, and between the two burning rates, I figured that I might not get the absolute top end in velocity I have gotten with other powders, but as long as it was within acceptable hunting accuracy of around 1" or so at 100 or 200yds it would be fine for me.

I could still keep a can of "X" powder if needed for the special loads on a rifle or two, but use up and forget the rest.

Thanks for the input.


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you do well to try 4831 also. especially the short cut version. I probably have better luck with it then with 4350
 
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I switched from IMR-4350 to H-4350 for 30-06 and have gotten a little more velocity and better groups.

My 270 likes 4831 a lot, so I haven't tried anything else.
 
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For many years shooters using the 06 in matches considered the IMR4350 the standard powder for best accuracy results. Never tried the H4350 but apparently it works as well. I'll give it a try.
 
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