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Has anyone used MRP powder with 165 grain bullets in a 30/06? If so how does it do, does it produce good velocity?

I usually use RL22 but can't find that now so I have been thinking of trying the MRP as they are supposed to be somewhat simular.

I have 2 unopened cans that have a $7.97 price tag. I bought these a few years ago.

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Never used MRP in an 06. But burned a lot of it in a 280. When I couldn't find it I switched to RL22. Except for the first lot of RL22 I could pretty much load gr for gr with my MRP loads. So if RL22 works for you MRP should as well.


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Only used it with 180gr bullets in 3006 it worked well.
 
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I've used MRP extensively with 165 gr. bullets in my 30-06 Ackley Improved. It works quite well, giving outstanding velocities, but I had to compress it heavily and overtime the heavily compressed powder becomes "encrusted" causing a change in burn-rate - that is, to a faster rate resulting in over pressure loads.

Thus, if you compress it, I suggest using fresh reloads, which have not given me any trouble.

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Ackley Improved,
I wasn't aware of powder changing burning rates when compressed. One time in a 30/06 and IMR 4350 I pulled a bullet from some older reloads and the powder was solid from being compressed. I had to use a little screw driver to break the powder to get it out of the case.

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but I had to compress it heavily and overtime the heavily compressed powder becomes "encrusted" causing a change in burn-rate - that is, to a faster rate resulting in over pressure loads.

I probably have as many compressed load as non compressed. I have never had this problem but then again maybe the increase existed and just wasn't enough to cause issues. I also don't normally load up several years worth at a time either.

I seriously doubt you will need to compress MRP any more than you did RL22.


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What I report regarding MRP came as a shock to me - I wasn't expecting it. Indeed, I've never encountered the problem with other powders I've heavily compressed.

But, it happened with MRP. Overtime - that is, one to two years of the loads being stored as heavily compressed (69 grs of MRP in 30-06 AI), I began to experience excessive pressure signs and erratic velocities that were not apparent when shooting the reloads fresh. And, when I pulled the bullets, the powder had become so encrusted that I had to dig it out of the case with a depriming tool. The encrustation had changed the burn-rate characteristics of the powder.

That encrustation might cause burn-rate changes doesn't surprise me - it's not a "normal" situation. The hard dense encrusted powder must have a different burn "geometry." My experience suggests that it does cause significant changes, which are difficult to predict, especially if you working with hot loads.

Now, I only shoot freshly compressed MRP loads and pull everything I don't shoot. I don't store heavily compressed MRP reloads.

Possibly, the powder coatings for MRP are causing the problem or maybe it's lot idiosyncratic. I don't know for certain.

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