Does the NEW Nosler #5 contain data for the Accubond and is there data fof 350 Rem mag??

The #5 does have data for the 350 Rem Mag. The Accubond isn`t listed in the data but I`m sure the data is as good a referance for them as you likely find. The list all their "then current when edited" bullets in the appropriate carridges including the CT line and failsafes. I`d use the data given and watch pressure signs when nearing max.

I called Nosler with the same question about the accubonds and they said the data is the same, just work up to max with caution while watching for signs of pressure like Joe said.

The accubonds have the same BC as the Ballistic Tips. I use the same load with the Accubonds as the loads I developed for the BTs. They shoot every bit as well as the BTs.

Here's my problem with the Nosler #5 - and those who do have it, correct me if I'm wrong. You are trying to give one set of load data for 4 or 5 distinctly different bullets - e.g. partitions, partition gold's, ballistic tips, failsafes, coated bullets, accubond's, etc. This is not really possible unless you provide the most CONSERVATIVE data (FYI - there are lawyers out there!)

Don't get me wrong, I am a die-hard Nosler bullet kinda guy, but Manual No. 4 is where I stop buying them. I found out (the hard way) that there is 2.0 grains of difference in max load between the partition and the partition gold (uncoated.) With this many variables (and the Accubond in another one!) you pretty much need to work up load for the SPECIFIC bullet being used/tested. You can't have one-max-load-does-it-all in my mind.

I agree, MuskegMan. Unfortunately, Nosler isn't the only company that does this: Hornady does, too. They provide the same data for roundnose and spitzer bullets of the same weight! Go figure that!

RSY

So basically #5 is NOT worth buying...???

I have #5, and I have not found one shread of information useful to me. YMMV.

I have a Nosler #5 and I have had excellent results using the indicated most accurate powder and the most accurate load within that powder data. I have found that the same load works with the BTs, partitions and Accubonds. I also find that that same load works with the Hornady SSTs and interbond bullets. POI for the various bullets are the same. The partitions groups are bit larger than the BTs and Accubonds but very good hunting loads.



The recommended most accurate powder and charge weight within that powder call out has worked very nicely for my 30-06, 300 RUM, 25-06 and 22-250.

I have the Nosler #5 and I find it to be okay. Not great, but okay. I do prefer the #4 manual's format. If you don't have a Nosler manual, then #5 would be good to have. If you've already got #4 then there's no real reason to rush out and buy #5. I do have both, however. I don't have a list handy, but #5 does include some cartridges that are not in the #4 manual.



Just my two cents worth...

-Bob F.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's worthless. We're not all in Clark's league (actually, I'm surprised you even bought it, Clark ). The book would likely be cost-prohibitive (both to develop and buy) if they worked up loads for each single type and weight of bullet. And, again, Nosler isn't the only company who follows this practice.



A manual is nothing more than a rough guide to help you on your way. In that capacity, Nosler #5 succeeds. On the other hand, if you can get your hands on a #4, grab it. I can't remember if your .350 Mag. is in it, though (the Accu-Bond surely isn't).



FYI: there are a few #4s on eBay right now for well under $10.



RSY

The reloading manuals are guides to reloading only, not bibles that are not to be questioned. The manual will only tell you what a particular barrel shot a particular load on a particular day, under the conditions given, that is all. Now if you as the reloader cannot take that information with other information gathered from friends, old reloading buffs, magazine articles, with caution as your main premise, interpolate about where to start with a particular load, you better not ever start. The Nosler #5 has some of the newer powders and chamberings other books do not have, including case sizes, OAL, etc that you will get no where else. I am probably a book junky because I just have to have all the new manuals that come out and can't wait to get them. The new blue Barnes book has some misinformation about particular loads, they have corrected pages on their Webpage. They all have some mistakes in them, that is why you should look at several before you jump, then proceed with extreme caution before trying that first load. If you are loading coated bullets you better look at a lot of material before you load. By the time you load your first coated bullet you should know all you can learn about them. I honestly consider the Nosler # 5 one of the better manuals, but it will not tell you all there is to know about every bullet even Nosler builds. Give them time they will put out information on them all in time. If you are serious about reloading you should have a manual from Hornady, Sierra, Nosler, Barnes, Swift A-Frame, Lyman. If you are a one man rifle and use only one bullet, then know it as well as you can before you proceed. Guess work is deadly in the reloading business. Good loading and shooting.

Phurly...

Is 350 Rem mag in #5???

Thanx in advance...

Must be God's way of telling us all to buy Oehler Model 43 ballistic labs .
JCN

It doesn't really matter which bullet/bullets where used to develop the maximum loads. Pertinent information in any reloading guide is the starting load, the rest is down to your rifle and getting the accuracy you want. I think the extra info that comes with the Nosler books is very helpful in developing good accurate loads, at least as good as any other manual available.
I use the tables in the back a lot and am glad I have the #4 as they have been reduced in the #5 book.

Interesting, my 30-06 runs approx 50fps FASTER than Noslers data, and my CZ 416Rigby runs within 10fps of Noslers data.
Perhaps you should consider the stackup of the variables between chambers, barrels, and component lot numbers as the reason for the variances?

RSY ----- That is the very reason I told you to look at several books before proceeding on a particular size bullet you are loading for. If it is the 150 grain Nosler bullet, look at the other books, and you don't necessarily have to own them. I have gone to the retail stores and read the manuals I don't have in the past and even copied loads. That 150 grain bullet from each maker will perform differently, however you can certainly gain a safe starting point to load the bullet. As you well know each and every barrel has it's own personality, you simply have to shoot yours enough to find it with that bullet. I started with the old Lyman book and it showed factory duplication loads, accuracy loads and maximum speed loads. I loved that old book, but today Lyman does not do that, and the old book does not show many of the newer powders I shoot. Conclusion, never just use one book, get a good overall view from several, then proceed with caution and you will be alright. Good shooting.