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I am fairly new at reloading, but eager to learn. Just bought a Tikka 22-250 and want to handload for it. Considering the Hornady 50 gr v-max. I noticed that you can get them moly coated. Can someone please explain the purpose, advantages, and disadvantes of "moly"? I don't know much about it.

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Justin,

Try this thread: http://www.serveroptions.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=005671#000000

Some people swear by moly, and others swear at it. There are some real advantages to moly, such as helping to prevent throat erosion, but there are some disadvantages, like barrel prep, and maintenance also. I suggest you try the search function and you will find a lot of information on moly on old threads. Frankly, I find it too much trouble to bother with, but then I am a little on the lazy side [Wink] .

Good luck.
 
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Justin - "IF" you use moly properly it can make varmint shooting a pleasure. IF you don't use it properly you will spend days trying to correct the problem.

If you are planning on doing a lot of high volume shooting like varmint control, then I would suggest moly. Otherwise, you should stick to naked bullets and good copper solvents to keep your bore clean.

Moly requires a unique approach to load development, a unique approach to breaking in a bore, and a unique cleaning routine. It is not a short cut for cleaning nor is it a miracle cure for a poorly shooting rifle.

However, when you are out in the field and you are sitting on top of a huge prairie rat condominium, being able to shoot 75 to 120 rounds straight without hours of cleaning between strings is a blessing. Every 30 rounds or so I run a few patches of Butch�s to remove fouling and immediately go back to exterminating rats.

If you are set on going to Moly, I will be happy to E-Mail a lengthy �Do�s and Don�ts� for shooting moly.
 
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Thanks for the info. I have never used moly before and had heard some good and some bad. I will probably only shoot about 200 rnds a year, so I think I will stick with non-moly bullets. Your help is greatly appreciated...
 
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I don't want to get into a long dissertation on the advantages of Moly nor do I want to have a back-and-forth discussion on it. There's plenty of info on the web. But, let me just say this: Moly is an advanced technique/preparation which requires some discipline. Don't do it unless you are an Advanced, Disciplined shooter. You can F@ck it up easily and then you'll be crying about how "it doesn't work".
 
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You have to throw more powder to get the pressure up but they claim they fly faster.(no chrono)
I've only tried the silver tip and it was a flop on paper but kills like the best of them.
 
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Forget about using moly, you will just end up frustrated and wonder how your bore developed rust. Moly draws moisture into the bore. Claims are made that it extends bore life but not proven in my view. I call moly lazy mans juice, since most moly users use it to extend how often they clean their bore between shots. It also forces you to use more powder per round and that translates to shorter bore life in my view. The more powder per round you use the faster the bore will go away period end of sentence. Powder consumption per round is the determining factor in bore life not the bullet passing through the bore. Were it not for the hot burning gases a rifle bore would never wear out.
 
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Start using moly, you will just end up thankful for it. Clean your fiream properly after each use as you should and you will never have your bore develop rust. Moly draws moisture into the bore no more than a bare un-oiled piece of steel does. Claims are made that it extends bore life and that has pretty much been proven in this thread: www.precisionshooting.com/aug98.html

I call moly smart mans juice, since many moly users use it to extend how often they clean their bore between shots. It does this in spades.

It also allows you to use more powder per round and that translates to higher resulting Velocities in my view.

Normally, the more powder per round you use the faster the bore will go away period end of sentence. However, it seems that the MoS2 tends to keep the barrel cooler than shooting bare bullets. Much of the heat generated in a barrel is created by the resistance of the bullet rubbing against the Bore. Since this friction is reduced with MoS2, the resulting heat transfered to the barrel is also reduced.

Powder consumption per round is not the only determining factor in bore life. Were it not for people continuing to shoot a firearm when the barrel is too hot and then deciding it is OK to leave it "fouled"(aka no cleaning) a rifle bore would rarely wear out.

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SEE! I told you that some people love, and some hate it [Big Grin] .
 
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Varmint Al has a great treatise on moly, and I mean treatise - objective, scientific, and straight forward. Check it out:
http://www.cctrap.com/~varmint/arelo.htm#Moly_Coating
 
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I tried moly for a bit. To me, it's akin to a kid with a fountain pen. Sure is fun to play with, but MAN is it ever messy!

I'm neither here nor there on the benefits/draw backs. Give it a try and decide for yourself.

Turok
 
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