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Anybody using this? On wild pigs? How do you like it? What other 196 to 200 gr bullets do you like in 8mm? | ||
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Sierra 200 grain Spitzer Flat base hits like a ton of bricks and seals the bore very well with less blow-by. I use it it my 8mm Mag and it likes high speed (3,000 fps+) MV. It retains weight well and goes through the heavy "shoulder" well. I have not tried it in the 8x57 Mauser cartridge,but I think it would drop a Pig with no problem at 2,500 fps. Gulf of Tonkin Yacht Club NRA Endowment Member President NM MILSURPS | |||
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There are lots of good 8mm bullets available. What 8mm cartridge are you planning on shooting them in ? Just because a bullet is good in one cartridge doesn't mean it will be good in another. I have a number of 8mm rifles including 8mm Rem mag, 8mm-338, 8x68, 8mm06 Ackley, std 8mm-06, 8x60,8x57 and an 8x52 R. A bullet that is good in the 8x57 becomes a varmit bullet in the first 3 calibres listed. In the mag 8mm's the Barnes 200 gr TSX is very good. The 200 gr Swift A frame and the Nosler Partition are also good. Those are the only bullets I shoot in the 3 mag 8mm's . The 200 gr Speer is also quite good and is very reasonably priced. I find it is very good in the 8mm-06 Ackley Imp. Hope that helps. | |||
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Snowman, all slow 8mm's. Late (.323) military mauser (8x57js; 200gr at 2450 fps), an 8x56MS (200gr at about 2250 fps). 8x56JRS (196gr at about 2300 fps). For deer probably all bullets would hold together, but planning to shoot wild pigs and want to be able to penetrate the shoulders and hold together. | |||
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200 Speer is awesome in the 8x57. I used to pull the 198 ball and seat the Speer. Warm load but a real hammer. "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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I have not used the Norma Oryx, but I can report that the Woodleigh .318" 200 grain works very well on medium to small antelope in Africa out of an 8x57JR at about 2200 fps. All bullets were pass-throughs, no bullets recovered, all game taken cleanly with one shot each. An additional comment about the 1908 8x56 Mannlicher-Schoenauer - nice rifles, but all the ones I have personally slugged have measured between .326" - .328" groove diameter. They can be frustrating to make shoot well with .323" bullets. | |||
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As already mentioned the 200 Speer would be excellent for what you are asking for. | |||
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Thanks for the recommendations, all. BPESteve, my 8x56 Mannlicher Schoenauer slugs .3268. I am swaging down some of the .329 Prvi 208gr bullets down to .326, and they spring back almost .001...but still aren't shooting great. 2" at 50 with Varget is best so far. Sierra 175gr bullet (.323) did a little over 4.5" at 100 with 4064 so almost the same. | |||
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I used the 196grs Oryx in the 8x75RS and the 8x64S Brenneke on red deer and wild boars with great succes! | |||
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Are you sure, that you used a Sierra 200grs -bullet in .323? In only know 150grs, 175grs ans 220grs-Sierra bullets in .323. | |||
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skl1: I load them exclusively for 8x57 Mauser and friends CZ 557 rifle. He use it primary for wild boars here. He is always excited about their performance. It kills instantly without elevated "meat damage". Works also great on deer etc. You can hear "bone crushing" sound after impact. My recipe is: DAG (RWS) brass, trimmed (Forster trimmer) and debbured Federal GM215M primer (yes, magnum primer) Alliant Reloader 17: 3.5g - 54gr, each charge weighted with RCBS electronic scales COAL: 77 mm - 3.03" Lee Factory Crimp (medium crimp) Muzzle velocity: ~ 790 m/s - 2590 fps Of course, cases polished and handled with gloves, primers sealed with Markron sealer - taking that shining ammo out catches eyes of other hunters  Some .500 S&W brass there too...  Jiri | |||
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Thanks, Jiri. Will check out the RL17 in my 8mm's. | |||
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Sierrs does make a 200 gr .323 diam bullet . It is a Hollow Point Boat Tail Matchking bullet, Sierra # 2415. The 220 gr Sierrs is a Spitzer BT. They make two flat base bullets in .323. One is 150 grs # 2400 and a 175 gr # 2410. I have tried the 175 gr bullet in a couple of the larger 8mm cartridges and it holds together quite well for a cup and core type bullet. It is well suited to a 8x60S and a 8mm-06 rifle. | |||
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I am a big fan of the Hornady 195 grn 8mm Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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