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I never used magnum primers with RL7 in the 45/70 but with standard primers loaded 41 with 405s and it worked well. This in a Marlin. Regards, Bill. | |||
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<Johnny Reb> |
quote:Thanks alot Bill for the info, I have heard that using a magnum primer is good for cold weather and also burns more of the powder with less residue in the bore, and I was curious if anyone has experienced using magnum primers and with what results. Anyway, I will load some up today and use some LR primers and maybe a couple of Mag. primers too, 1 with 41 grains of Re-7 and 1 with 45 grains and see if there is a difference in burning and/or accuracy, and if there is , I will let you know. Johnny Reb | ||
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With respect to RL7 you should be aware that it is now being produced overseas (Sweden?) and that some of the data in books may be for the "old" version. I always had good luck with CCI primers for consistency. | |||
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In their reloading book, footnote #3, Alliant states emphatically that they DO NOT recommend magnum primers for their propellants unless they specifically require them. They only recommend them in very large capacity cases usually requiring over 80g of powder. FWIW, accuracy with their propellants has always been best using standard primers even in magnum cases with less than 80g of powder. | |||
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Seems to me some of the guys at the Marlin site use Re 7 with good results. The COL should only be 2.55 in most cases and If I am remembering correctly a magnum primer is not really necessary for this cartridge. I would post this question at Marlin talk and see what you net the guys there are very sharp on 45-70 loadings. Kind Regards. | |||
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<Roger 4> |
In reguards to your 45-70 loading the Rl-7, I use it and win mag primers as my favorite load with 60grs of Rl-7 and Sierra 300gr. HP`s . I use this load in my Marlin 1885CB,,my T/C encore and my H&R/NEF 45-70,,,in the Marlin it is especialey accurate,,on the crono. out of the Marlin with it`s 26" barrel i get 2550-2580 fps. its a hot round,,and very accurate. AGAIN I SAY IT`S A HOT ROUND!,,safe in my guns no pressure problems that I have seen. If you want a good middle of the road load 50grs. will get you what you want with the magnum primers,,,most of all work up to the load and check for pressure problems always...hope this helps,,,,,,,,Roger 4 | ||
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Roger 4.....curious as the velocity that loads shows in the other rifles you mentioned (and how long those barrels are). | |||
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<Roger 4> |
DB Bill,,,the T/C barrel is from FoxRidge,,the T/C custom shop,,,it`s also 26" full bull(.995 at the muzzel),,the H&R/NEF Handi Rifle has a standard weight barrel and is 22" in length. The T/C shoots very well,,but not as fast as the Marlin,,,hovering around 2500fps + or - 20fps depending on its mood,,,,the Handi with that load kicks like a bull,,and the 10 shots over a week that i could stand to shoot it,,averaged around 2300fps,,with a low of 2270,,,the single shots are truly fun but you just can`t stand but so much of that punishment,,,the Marlin is much more controlable,,but still punishing,,,it`s just amazing what that load will do on a Whitetail,, instant kill,,,with no remorse,,,,.If you will look in the 47th edition of the Lyman reloading manual,,this load is listed under the Ruger#1 loading info.,,,,the 60 grains is a slightly reduced load from max,,,,,not for everyone but works very well for me,,hope this answers your question,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Roger 4 | ||
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Sixty grains? Wow! My Sierra manual lists a MAXIMUM load of 54.2 grains of Re-7 for 2100 fps for their 300 grain bullet. This was from a 22" Marlin, and is also their top Re-7 load for the very strong Ruger Number One. I won't be going above that listed powder charge! Regards, Guy | |||
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Personally using jacketed bullets in the 45-70 is an exercise in extravigance. There is nothing a jacketed bullet can do that a cast bullet can't do as well if not better. I use a 350 grain Saeco cast bullet with 50 grains of Rl-7 and Win LR primer. It's accurate and powerful. Jim | |||
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