What's your preference and why?

Either is a good bullet. I have shot a lot of TSX's and am now shooting a lot of TTSX's. The accuracy and velocities are essentially the same.

There have been a lot of threads about the TSX's "failing", do a search, you will find them. After reading several of these and having a "failure" of my own, I have the following policy: do not shoot TSX's in any caliber below 30 caliber, and shoot TTSX's if they are available.

The reason is that the hollow point in the smaller TSX's are not large enough (IMO) and often are partially occluded with detritus

338......308......284......277......264


IMO the larger hollow points in 30 caliber and larger are adequate to insure proper expansion unless you are going crazy with an impact velocity above 3100 fps or so.

By contrast the hollow point below the plastic tip of the TTSX is substantially larger

250 gr 338 TSX...........225 gr 338 TTSX with tip broken off


The TTSX's shoot very well

woods,
Good post. Thank you. It's what i was looking for. Regards........

+1 for woods post. I am all in for the TTSX vs TSX. I just use "why not" for my reason when both shoot the same.

Hey Woods....what material is that target made up of??? Kinda looks like it might be your "least favorite" couch??? (My humor)

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Originally posted by kraky:
Hey Woods....what material is that target made up of??? Kinda looks like it might be your "least favorite" couch??? (My humor)

My home made targets, 30x40 foam board from Office Depot (3 for $15.00), clear carpet mask from Home Depot (sticky on one side) and cheap black paint. The trick is finding paint cheap enough that it doesn't stick good.

When you get it right it works good for seeing bullet holes at long range



When you use too good a paint or the carpet mask sticks too well then it ain't so good


But the targets last for years cause you can just paint over the holes

A related issue about TSX performance....

In 2007 I hunted black bear in BC (my first outfitter hunt & my first hunt in N.America). I was using a 7mm Mag with 160 gr TSX at below max - I guess 2900 fps or less.

On the last day right on dark I shot a brown phased boar - 5'6" & 350 lbs + - at 307 yards - could not get closer as it was in an open cut over & it was getting dark.

First shot behind right shoulder was a bit low & the bear dropped & was rolling on the ground.

Second shot on the run quartering away at 270 yds and I hit the back thigh. The hit was a loud crack on bone & the bear was lifter up and tossed over! I couldn't believe the effect of the bullet & neither could the guide.

I have a good friend - experienced hunter - who has had similar results on a big red deer stag. I have shot about 6 or 7 animals with the TSX in 7mm08 and they have all been one shot kills in the chest area. The effect on bone is shattering & very different from a lead core bullets impact on bone.

Has anyone else experience this effect of a TSX lifting up & tossing an animal with a good hit on bone?

No, didn't lift any, but came close on the South Island when I shot a red deer at 310 yds, he reared up and fell backwards.

I think TSX shine at 2-300 yards more so than at 100 yds. I know it doesn't make sense but it seems like they're too efficient at the shorter distances. Very clean wound channels ie little meat damage. Some say they pencil, which if true I can live with and do not consider a failure. I agree with the one article- if that is how they fail ie become a solid, well so be it. I dunno but it almost looks like they just razor through with the petals cutting through the animal at the shorter distances. (Curiously the only deer I shot with Scirroccos the wound channel looked the same). I've been using TSX exclusively for the past 6+ yrs.

I've only recovered 2 bullets from animals. One was a 130gr from a 270 Win which I shot a whitetail right through the chest and recovered in the left rear ham (100 yards). The other a 180gr from a 300 Win on a 6x7 elk I shot at 279 yds, high shoulder shot beneath the opposite skin. They are perfect "poster" TSX Xs.

The Stag I shot at 310yds went through him, as did 2 mulies at 307 & one at 257, one fallow at 299 all of which were not recovered. (Needless to say no other from whitetails)

I've been tempted to try the TTSX, but I'm a firm believer in the opposite of good is perfect...........