I need powder and load data for 147gr fmjbt lead core bullets . they are pulled I believe.
I went through a 100 and they have the lead core and are a true .308 I have at hand 1mr 4895 imr 4198 aa2700. I ran out of imr4064 H4831sc.
thanks Dave

Steel core, or steel jacket? Just curious.

Try this link:
http://web.archive.org/web/200...~Masterpo/M1load.htm

correction lead core steel jacket.
Now I know what I talkin about

Hornady Load book has a section covering loads for the M-1 Garrand and the M-14/M1-A.
This should give you a starting point.

muck

That is what I thought; Yes, get your loads from the Hornady book.

Something in the neighborhood of 47-48 grains of 4895 should be what you're looking for.

Thanks for the info.

Believe it or not, the first AA2700 was one 90,000 lb lot of surplus WC852 which had been made to load 30-06 ball ammunition and it was tested in a Garand. There were a number of lots of WC852 on the market at the time, all of them had slightly different burn rates. I don’t have the data in front of me but go to Accurate Arms web page and look up their current data. I have a 5th edition and for the 147/150 bullet the start load is 56.1 grains AA2700 at a velocity of 2771 fps. In my opinion, don’t try to push any 147/150 grain bullet faster than 2700 fps in a Garand. This mechanism was baselined in 1936, the ammunition was not as fast, nor the pressures as high, as what is sold as commercial ammunition now.

Don’t use any 4831 and I don’t know what the burn rate of 4198 is, and that means it is inappropriate for use in this mechanism. The only powders you list that are usable are IMR 4895, IMR 4064 and AA2700. I consider IMR 4064 to be the slowest powder to use, but because AA2700 is a ball powder, its pressure curve drops so fast that it is appropriate for the Garand gas system.

I have shot kegs of IMR 4895 in the Garand and consider any of the 4895 types, that is IMR 4895, AA2495, and H4895 to be first choice in this mechanism. I am unaware of any National Match ammunition loaded for the Garand that did not use IMR 4895. A nice load, one that I used in testing, was a 150 SMK 47.5 grains IMR 4895, any case, CCI #34 primer. Some cut this to 46 grains and had zero function issues. For IMR 4064, you can go up a grain from IMR 4895, so you won’t have any problems with a 147 grain bullet and 48 to 48.5 grains IMR 4064.

I bought a much slower burning lot of WC852 than what Accurate Arms bought, and I am happy with a load that just pushes a 147 grain bullet under 2700 fps.

M1 Garand, VAR barrel

148 IMI FMJBT 59.5 gr WC852 IMI cases CCI200

4 April 2009 T=72 ° F

Ave Vel = 2683
Std Dev = 18
ES = 57
Low = 2647
High = 2704
N = 8

thanks Slamfire, I see BL-c 2 listed as a load for the Garand.
Anyone tried or use it. 46grs = about 2700f/s
Dave