vihts i the hardest brass rem or winsh in 7mmstw or are they eny diferens in weight

Linkin,

I haven't used alot of Remington brass. Here is what the target shooters tell me. The winchester brass is better than the Remington brass. The Laupa or Norma brass is better than the winchester brass. This is all from a case life standpoint. I have used the Federal brass with good results in my 300 winchester mag (it is stronger than the winchester brass).

charlie g

In most calibers, Remington brass tends to be a little heavier in the web (case head) area than Winchester, and Winchester tends to have a bit more case capacity. I have found little difference in the utility of the two brands, and nothing that would justify the price (in the U.S., at least) of Norma or Lapua.

As far as hardness, that varies with the heat treatment of each individual lot. Norma brass used to have a reputation for being rather soft in the head area, but that was 30 years ago and I'm sure their practices have changed.

Linkan,
I've performed quite a few test with brass over the years and I'm of the impression that Winchester makes the better cases. Just MHO.

I prefer Winchester except with the .303 British.

I know i'm bringing up an old thread. But I was wondering if Gatehouse or anyone else could comment on their brass preference with .303 British. Does Rem brass give better case life?

Remington has sucked hind tit for several years and it shows in a lot of their work.....including some samples of brass I've used.....I prefer Winchester but suspect Remington will be back to a par soon under new management!

I've never owned an STW but I shoot a number of other calibres, standard and magnums, and use Remington acrost the board wherever possible. It's the best domestic brass made. It's not as good "right from the box" as Lapua but it can be prepped to a point equal to Lapua.

My preference is for Winchester brass first, Remington second and Federal way down at the bottom of the pile. The Winchester seems to be the hardest of the three with Remington a bit behind. I just gave away over 250 rounds of once fired Federal 30-06 brass because I felt it was too soft. I've had the same problem with FC brass in my 7x57. They just didn't last as long with my loads.
Paul B.

I have always used Remington brass and never had a problem with it. Can't say it is better than anything else but it works good for me.

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Originally posted by Charlie G:
Linkin,<br /><br />I haven't used alot of Remington brass. Here is what the target shooters tell me. The winchester brass is better than the Remington brass. The Laupa or Norma brass is better than the winchester brass. This is all from a case life standpoint. I have used the Federal brass with good results in my 300 winchester mag (it is stronger than the winchester brass).<br /><br />charlie g

Over a period of 53 years of loading metallic cartridges, I find that there is no practical difference between Win. and Rem. brass as far as durability and case life is concerned. However, I have found Winchester cases with offcenter flash holes!

In addition, many lots of Norma brass have been softer than domestic products, requiring loads to be cut and giving shorter case life. Current Norma brass is better, however.

I have found in a small study of reloaders that Winchester brass is inferior to Remington ( only slightly ) . Members of our high power team concluded this after 10 months of reloading various brass and calibers . For what ever that's worth .Obviously it wasn't a controlled absolute . 22 people participated of which I would vouch for 8 maybe as many as 10 .

In MO Lapua RWS Norma are Top picks also pricey !.
Then comes Nosler Hornady Remington Federal Winchester . That is not to suggest Nosler is superior to Federal or Hornady I just don't know about that . I use Federal Remington even Winchester to work up loads , then finalize them in Lapua or RWS.

There was an interesting article in Guns or Guns & Ammo or Shooting or one of the other several publication I subscribe to .

Point: Remington was slightly better than Winchester for reloading life ...

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Originally posted by linkan:
vihts i the hardest brass rem or winsh in 7mmstw or are they eny diferens in weight

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I have given up on trying to determine which is better at any given time. I have received some real crap from both companies at times. I bought 200 remington .223 cases about a year ago and 104 of them had no flashholes at all! On the other hand the 260 Remington cases I bought recently (Remington made) were the most consistent for weight and length I have ever purchasaed.

It seems the quality changes from year to year. The tooling gets old and replaced, the raw materials can change, people and pride in their work can change depending on the economic conditions.

At the current price of base metals, I am holding off on new brass purchases as much as possible. I suspect things will be done to cheapen the manufacturing process that we won't like.

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At the current price of base metals, I am holding off on new brass purchases as much as possible. I suspect things will be done to cheapen the manufacturing process that we won't like.

Naw. They'll just use that as an excuse to raise the prices even higher.
Paul B.