Any reloading the 45 super?
I am having a hard time finding reloading information on this caliber, especially for the heavy bullets.

Thanks

I don't know this for a fact, but it is my strong suspicion that Ace owns the "45 Super" name, and they get lawyered up every time a biz prints those words.



There is a non profit site, realguns that has loads and pistol modfications for 45 Super:

http://www.real-guns.com/



Triton, before they went out of biz, had 45 Super data on their website and I saved it:



.45 SUPER�

LOAD DATA



Bullet Powder Starting Starting Maximum Maximum Muz

Charge Velocity Charge Velocity Energy



Sierra 165 gr. JHP Power-Pistol - - 12.0 grs. 1,380 fps 698







Nosler 185 gr. N-350 9.2 grs. 1,112 fps 11.2 grs. 1,275 fps 668



Power-Pistol 9.5 grs. 1,105 fps 11.3 grs. 1,307 fps 702



HS-7 13.0 grs. 1,148 fps 14.7 grs. 1,304 fps 702



AA-7 14.0 grs. 1,199 fps 16.0 grs. 1,306 fps 702







Hornady 200 gr. XTP N-350 8.8 grs. 1,048 fps 10.2 grs. 1,179 fps 618



Power-Pistol 8.5 grs. 1,037 fps 10.3 grs. 1,196 fps



HS-7 12.0 grs. 1,073 fps 13.7 grs. 1,226 fps 668



AA-7 13.0 grs. 1,093 fps 14.6 grs. 1,214 fps







Hornady 230 gr. XTP N-350 7.8 grs. 963 fps 8.9 grs. 1,040 fps 553



Power-Pistol 8.0 grs. 933 fps 9.4 grs. 1,104 fps



HS-7 10.5 grs. 924 fps 12.3 grs. 1,110 fps 630



AA-7 11.0 grs. 942 fps 13.5 grs. 1,108 fps



The above loading data is only for handguns converted to .45 Super and only

for use with Triton or Starline .45 Super cases. All loads were assembled

with a Federal 150 primer to an OAL of 2.220". The velocities are from a 5"

barrel.



Standard .45 Auto dies are utilized in loading the .45 Super. Various

brands of primers have been used in developing the .45 Super. The Federal

150 offers the best overall performance. The use of a magnum primer is not

necessary nor recommended. A heavy taper crimp is recommended when loading

the .45 Super.



WARNING: The .45 Super cartridge generates higher pressure levels than

conventional .45 Auto or .45 Auto +P ammunition. The .45 Super cartridge

case is constructed to withstand higher levels of pressure than

conventional .45 Auto brass. Under no circumstances should .45 Super

ammunition be used in a firearm not chambered or converted to .45 Super.

The use of .45 Super ammunition in anything other than an authorized .45

Super firearm or conversion will cause excessive wear and possible damage

to the firearm and injury to the user. DO NOT attempt to use the above data

in standard or +P .45 ACP cases.



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Also, Quickload is a program that will generate 45 Super loads if you stipulate the proper pressure. 45 Super is nothing more than a 45acp pressure level between 45acp+P and 460 Rowland.



my data:

0) 45 acp................. 185 gr. 7.6 gr. AA#5 jams w/stock Patriot

spring

1) 45 acp..................185 gr. 10.2 gr. AA#5 1100 fps 18,000psi

2) 45 acp +P...............185 gr. 10.8 gr. AA#5 1200 fps 21,700 psi

3) 45 Super................185 gr. 12.4 gr. AA#5 1312 fps 28,000 cup

4) 460 Rowland............ 185 gr. 14.5 gr. AA#5 1500 fps 38,800 cup

5) Easy extraction ........185 gr. 15.0 gr. AA#5 1868 fps 35kpsi *rifle

6) Case starts to stretch..185 gr. 15.2 gr. AA#5 1886 fps 37kpsi *rifle

7) difficult extraction ...185 gr. 16.0 gr. AA#5 1956 fps 42kpsi *rifle

8) primer falls out .......185 gr. 16.5 gr. AA#5 1998 fps 45kpsi *rifle

Clark I appreciate your response. I was looking at a post of yours another forum.

I am trying to work up the strongest load that remains subsonic. From what I was reading on real-guns, I should be able to get 260gr bullet up to 1000fps.

I was looking for someone who has actually done this or at least the results from Quickload. I try to have more than one source of info when I push the edges.

Like Clark said, Real Guns.com has the data, and if you have any questions Joe will answer them if you E-mail him. I have done the spring change in my 5in Springfield Model# PI 9132L. It all ready had heavy firing pin and firing pin spring. I load the 185 golden saber with 10.3 to 11.3gr of power pistol and with 11.3grs av.fps is 1375 in my gun. All so beefed up the magazine spring 2lbs. more than factory cause of faster cycling. I use Starline 45 super brass. Love it and is very accurate. Better accuracy and faster than my 357-Security Six in a 6in barrel.

Some of you people think just because I put a Wolff 24 lb. recoil spring, a Wolff heavy-duty firing pin spring, and a Wolff extra-power magazine spring in my Colt 1911 Government Model and shoot 45 Super and 450 SMC with no problems that you can. Well, maybe you can and maybe you can't.

I got me some 45 Super brass from Starline. Some of those silver hardened-cast, lead bullets of the 255 grain persuasion from LaserCast, and some Accurate Arms No. 7 powder. Used 11.7 grains of the powder with OAL of 1.25".

I've only shot a few hundred rounds of this and so far my gun has not blown up, but that don't mean it won't kill me on the next shot. This stuff chronographs out of my gun at @1,000 f/s. But don't think you can get that out of your guns.

What really surprises me is those semi-wadcutters made for 45 Colt wheel-guns feed just fine in my gun, but they probably won't in anybody else's.

I have reamed out the primer pockets on some of the brass with a large rifle primer reaming tool and put large rifle primers in the mix with good results. But, again, don't you all be trying this.