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I can push these at 3200 fps plus from my 300 RUM and my gun loves them. Has anyone tried these on big)ger) game? How do they do? Just concerned about the Battail configuration even though they are interlocs. | ||
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No personal experience...but if you called Hornady, I bet they would tell you that 3200 fps is outside of the performnace envelope Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I'd be leary...they are not a super bullet by any means. Just an interlock. A couple years ago a friend was using them on a carribou hunt out of a 300win mag. He did a bou at about 200 yards text book behind the shoulder. The rib cage on the far side had alot of bloodshot meat. It sure didn't bother the "meat harvest" off that bou but I don't think it's a bullet you want to risk tough angles, shoulder bones etc etc on big game. | |||
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Hornady, in their manual for the 190 gr BTSP Inter Lok, lists the useful velocity range at 2200 - 3100 fps. I don`t know if that`s at impact or muzzle. ------------------------------------ The trouble with the Internet is that it's replacing masturbation as a leisure activity. ~Patrick Murray "Why shouldn`t truth be stranger then fiction? Fiction after all has to make sense." (Samual Clemens) "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". | |||
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I, too, use these bullets in a 300RUM at about 3200mv. In the past year I've taken three animals with this combination. 1. Cow elk at about 150yd. (estimated). 30 cal. entry, 50 cal. exit. Near perfect heart shot broadside and very little meat damage. 2. 7X6 bull elk at 450yd. (lazered). Hit a little high and forward. Hammered a shoulder blade and punctured both lungs. Bullet didn't exit, but wasn't recovered because it got dark while doing the field dressing. There was some, but not excessive, bloodshot shoulder meat. 3. Barbary sheep at 135yd. (lazered). Shot into the ribcage at a slight quartering away angle. The bullet didn't exit, but the ram died immediately. I can't recall his name, but a tech at Hornady told me in a phone conversation that this combination "should work, and work well." I went to this bullet because a lighter premium bullet from another manufacturer failed to penetrate on several critters. These experiences are longer stories than I care to type. The Hornadys proved to be more accurrate in my rifle, as well. These are just my experiences and not meant to influence anybody in any way. If you do choose to use this bullet I hope your luck is as good as mine. | |||
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That tells me what I want too know, I have some I will use in my 300 Weatherby | |||
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Pop I've used the 190 gr Hornady in one of my 300 Wby's and I've loaded it in a buddies 300 Wby as well. We've taken a number of whitetails and a couple moose . The moose were both broadside shots (lungs) and they just took a couple steps and fell over. Deer have been taken from various angles. Judging by the internal damage this bullet certainly opens up @ 300 Wby velocities. There are other bullets that may be better suited at close range but long range this bullet works. | |||
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This is why I asked. My gun likes them..just was not sure about the 3200 fps part. | |||
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POP, I got all sorts of excited about these bullets when I got my first .300 Win Mag. Tried to get them to shoot and couldn't (BAR  ). When I got my Browning Stainless Stalker I gave them another try. They shot like gang busters and I was thrilled. Borrowed my gun to a friend who subsequently shot a raghorn bull at about 150 yards with it (didn't have a chronograph at the time, but I am guessing a muzzle velocity close to 3,000 fps). He found both pieces and when combined made a nice mushroom, but it did seperate. Forward now to later in the fall. I was on a cow hunt and my buddy had wounded a calf. I was going through the Aspens to kick it out, and it hopped up right in front of me at about 15 yards going straight away. Normally don't like that kind of a shot, but it was a wounded elk and I wasn't taking any chances. Long story short I ruined alot of meat, but I do have what is left of the bullet for you to see. I guy has to make his own decisions, but it was the last 190 grain Hornady BTSP I fired out of that gun at game. Here are the images:   | |||
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Man that looks sad~ | |||
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This bullet shoots very well in my 30-06 and in a .300 Win Mag I used to own. I haven't killed anything with it but suspect it might be a better killer in a 30-06 than in any of the magnums. | |||
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pop,300 winnies pictures don''t lie,yes hornady makes great bullets so does nosler sierra speer etc, but if their not bonded they loose their jackets,i shoot all the above bullets for target practice and 9 times out of 10 they look like 300 winnies pictures or worse,i dig them out of the sand berm at 625 yards and at that range and speed loss you''d think they''d hold up better, yes we need cheap bullets for practice but its really something when you dig em out! one bullet that will suprise lots of people is Speers spitzer hot core bullets, regards to all. jjmp | |||
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