I thought you guys would get a rise out of this. I received it from a friend via email:

This is a post from www.ingunowners.com forum user VWFred69.

"I was showing my wife's dad and uncle my xd .40, had it empty and locked back when i showed it to him. when i put it in the case i slid the wrong mag in. Her uncle asked "does it come apart easy to clean" so i flipped up the slide release and racked it pulling the trigger to release the slide. Boom, I treated the gun as loaded even though i thought it was empty so the shot went into the ground, but i was tightly holding the slide over the ejector when it went off. lets just say my hand isn't a pretty sight. I have been raised with guns, taken gun safety class, and respect guns. double and triple check your gun before cleaning!"

Ouch! I bet his hand felt numb for a while till the pain set in.

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This guy should be convicted and locked up - stupid, irresponsible !

It looks like he was at least a safe idiot. I don’t know if jail time is called for, it depends on if he did it in town or out in the country. Because it was an accident, not a deliberate discharge, and no one else was hurt, I think he was punished enough.

One thing is for sure though; he has a screwed up hand to help remind him the rest of his life about what happens when you assume a gun's unloaded.

I wonder how much alcohol had to do with that accident? I’m not saying it did but a lot of stupid things happen when it’s involved like putting your loaded clip instead of your unloaded clip in your gun.

I’m sure he “bitch slaps” himself every time he looks at that left hand (I know I would). The fact that he did it in front of people he was trying to impress? Damn!

I never, never, ever put a magazine into a pistol that is going into the rug unless I look twice before I zip it closed...

From the article about the British PC who shot the civilian: "PC David Micklethwaite, 52, blasted telephone operator Keith Tilbury at point blank range after mistakenly loading a live round into a 'Dirty Harry' style .44 Magnum revolver."

So why does the writer use this type of language? Sounds to me like he wants to put the gun in a bad light for political purposes...

Homebrewer,
Sadly the brit press salivate profusely at getting stories like this. I bet a pound to a piece of poo we'd have an outright ban on soap in the UK if a hack ever found out how Dillinger got out.

That's what happens when one forgets the fundementals of safe gun handling. Had one of my fellow officers put a bullet through his left hand field stripping his glock. Forgot what was told him double check to see if it was loaded point it in a safe direction pull the trigger.

I was just glad he wasn't one of my students. I must of told them a hundred times the proper way of doing it.They got sick of hearing by the time there glock training was over with. So far none of mime have done this. Knock on wood.

Dam that must have hurt.

having never done much shooting with handguns, i am hardly qualified to comment at all, other than that looks like it will leave a mark!. but a question does arise....... is it common practice to put a gun in a rug with the magazine in place? i would think that in the intrest of assured safety, one would leave the mag out, pretty much the same as a rifle is treated when put in a case. i know i can't imagine putting a mag in any gun to be put away
i hope the unfortunate fella heals up OK.... that's gonna be tender for a long time.

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Originally posted by merlinron:
having never done much shooting with handguns, i am hardly qualified to comment at all, other than that looks like it will leave a mark!. but a question does arise....... is it common practice to put a gun in a rug with the magazine in place? i would think that in the intrest of assured safety, one would leave the mag out, pretty much the same as a rifle is treated when put in a case. i know i can't imagine putting a mag in any gun to be put away
i hope the unfortunate fella heals up OK.... that's gonna be tender for a long time.

Yes, someone shouyld take that pistol away from him before he hurts someone other than himself. Just incredibly stupid.
It's not unsual to store a def. handgun loaded, infact, that is how it should be stored. Then again, the guy put a loaded mag in the pistol, he should have noticed. There is a big diff. in the wt. of a loaded & empty mag. It borders on criminally stupid IMO.

One can easily have lapses in concentration. I do it all the time - I'm a bit Asperger's syndrome inclined. That's why I have rules and then more rules - to keep me and those around me safe! Point is, lapses do occur. The fellow did say he streated the gun as loaded and pointed it in a safe direction. Putting a loaded magazine in a gun for storage? Mmmmm ....! However, I have lived in a place where a loaded gun was about survival under attack! (And that wasn't even war!) There is no such thing as an unloaded gun! Not only was my gun stored with a loaded magazine but with a round chambered! It was ready to shoot by simply cocking the hammer - an action well practiced. In those days and even now, I would not pass a gun to another nor even handle it myself without first openening the breach and inspecting the status and expecting (insisting) the recipient to check the still open breach. That anal retentiveness probably saved me from an accident or two.

There are ONLY 2 conditions of THE gun...

LOADED, and UNLOADED.

Mishandled, you will soon learn, which is which.

Here is a HINT, it is kinda like a pocket knife,

IF the blade is open it might be sharp, if the blade is closed you can put it in your pocket...

Be nice to the guy. "Let those without sin toss the first rock."

I am glad the VWFred69 posted his unfortunate experience and pictures. Those terrible graphics will absolutely remain in my memory and are a great warning about an idiosyncrasy of these striker mechanisms. Apparently there are a number of these pistols that require the trigger to be pulled to remove the slide. Being a Glock, it does not have an external safety. So you cannot put the safety on to drop the striker.

I will bet this is not the only incident of an accidental discharge happening with these pistols. But it is the first I have read of this.

Accidents happen even if they are improbable. At least in this improbable accident there are graphics and text. I have been trying to find for years recorded examples of accidental discharges with the old series 70 Colt M1911. I recall hearing that these pistols had accidental discharges when dropped with a round in the chamber. Which explains the series 80 firing pin block. But I can’t find an example.

I was able to hear second hand of folks who had accidental discharges with Rem M700 actions. To empty the magazine you have to feed the rounds through the chamber. On the older versions, you have to take the safety off to open the bolt. People had accidental discharges with new Remington M721’s back in the 50’s.



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I read an article by a fellow who had an AD with 1911. He said he had had the safety catch 'slicked' to gain speed on the 'combat course' and he also happend to carry is pistol 'cocked and locked' as a defensive weapon. Well, he was 'making his gun safe' when it fired! He was pointing it at his 'block of wood' when he did this. He pulled the trigger, then he slipped the 'slicked' safety off and the gun fired into the block! Duh! His safely was so slick it did not lift the anvil off the sear! It became the trigger. I guess one should not call that an 'accidental' discharge! The gun was made unsafe by modification!

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Originally posted by homebrewer:
So why does the writer use this type of language? Sounds to me like he wants to put the gun in a bad light for political purposes...

The "Press" still thinks ALL ammo is loaded with cordite and ALL planes land, taxi and park on the tarmac.

thanks fred...
i can understand a h-defense gun being load all the time... not loaded more or less defeats it's purpose.... but i would think having it in a rug does that as well.