Fellas, I bought some RL 19 awhile back, thinking of loading some 150-168gr. rounds for my .300WM.
Nothing!!

Anybody had any luck with this stuff, on a .300 winnie?? Maybe 180gr.??

Seems like this is the only Alliant powder I cant get to work some magic..sakofan..Thanks in advance.

I shoot a lot of RL-19 through my .340's, but for the .300 Winny nothing can beat RL-22 on the 180 grain bullets. Good shooting.

Sakofan;
Sounds like you got some same stuff I did.
R-19 can be a crap shoot, sometimes you get a good batch, sometimes you don't. Unfortunately I lost the roll of the dice and got a batch that will not even come close to published velocities in any cartridge, regardless of bullet weight.

[Averages 200fps slower than stated in manual ]

Where the R-22 I have lives up to published Data.

[ 10-31-2003, 17:57: Message edited by: Marsh Mule ]

I'm glad its not just me. I shot all Summer with Hodgden and switched hearing it had superior vel. in my .338WM. Something like 200fps below published velocity. What a dog! Also low vel. in my 30-06.

Well, first off. My beloved Sako 75 .300WM is a very fickle mistress. So Iam slow to discount any powder and or bullet combo based on many, many frustated days at the range, working different loads.

I agree totally about RL22!! It's the cats ass of the .300 Winnie!!

Funny, 3 post and no "Hey, I got a load that will shoot" post!

Iam going to try it again with some Sierra Game Kings, 180gr. I got laying around.

My mulie load this year will be 168gr. Triple Shock with 78.5gr. RL 22 and Fed. primers. 215M's of course.

I could ALMOST throw away all other powders, and stick to RL22.
IMR 4831 with 175gr. SMK's, are still my accuracy loads. Thanks guys!! Keep'em coming!!..sakofan..

[ 10-31-2003, 23:56: Message edited by: sakofan ]

sakofan,

Those Tripleshocks are awesome on game. 2 of my friends used the 168gr TS on elk and I used the 130gr Xlc-bt in my 270Win. We took 3 elk, and no bullets were recovered, and 2 dropped on the spot, the 3rd made it about 30 feet. 2 of the elk were a looong ways out there. RL19 shot well in my friends Sako 3ooWinnie, but I don't know the fps. They do seem sensitive to seating depth.
Fred

I use Rel-19 in my 6mm Rem. and in my 6.5x55. Both calibers will print under an inch (5at100)
with it. Several other powders do just as well. All in all I'd say it's a satisfactory powder. I notice you guys are using it in a lot larger calibers than I do so it must be fairly versatile. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

It does good out of my 300 Win Mag using 165 grain Partitions. I have had Barnes' techs to also tell me that this is the best powder for the 300 Win Mag that they have tried.

75.5 grs of RL-19 will churn up 3132 with a 165 gr. bullet...

RL-22 will get you 3152 with the same bullet..

RL-19 will fill the case to 94%
RL-22 will fill the case to 98%

Now someone tell me that RL-22 is better than RL-19...It boils down to which is the most accurate in the individual rifle, also RL-19 has less compaction for what its worth...

RL-19 operates at less pressure and could feasibly be loaded hotter than RL-22..I know it can in the .338...

I have not worked that much with the 300 Win. and RL-19 having mostly used 76 grs of RL-22,in the past, but If I had a 300 Win right now, I would be working with RL-19 to see how far I could go with it....

I'm bettin it would be my choice, by the time I got it figured out..Like I said thats what happened with my 338, I got equal velocity at much less pressure..

Ray, in my part of the world, RL22 is THE powder for .300 WM's and RUM's right now. And RL25.

I havent found the right touch with the RL19, but Iam not finshed yet. I will try some 180gr.s that might shoot better..sakofan..

[ 11-02-2003, 13:24: Message edited by: sakofan ]

I can do over 3300 fps with a 140gr in my 7mm rem mag with RL-19, doesn't sound slow too me.

IMO when an accurate gun won't shoot, then its the bullet, not the powder and BarnesX is a good place to shoot a 4" group in many rifles...

BarnesX will shoot in some rifles and is terrible in others, moreso than any other bullet I know of...I think it has to do with the smoothness of the bore...but thats another subject.

Ray, I agree...in part with Barnes X's not shooting in SOME rifle's.
My Sako will shoot a 5 shot group at 100 yds. that you could literally cover with a quarter with Barnes X,XLC,and the new TSX. Using RL22, IMR 4831, and at times, H 4350.
One group shot 150gr. X's and IMR 4831 into a group you could cover with a dime

So, maybe your right. I should give RL19 anougher whirl. But, I will try it with 180gr. bullets

But, in this case, it's the powder!! Or my failure to extract the right powder charge.

Ray, I didnt choose Barnes bullets. They chose me, so to speak. The accuracy that they will shoot in my rifle, is riveled only by the great Sierra Match King.

As I stated above, my Sako is very fickle. So Iam slow to kick a powder,bullet,ect. to the curb..sakofan..Thanks for all the responses..

Sakofan you are Right! It is the Batch or Lot of R-19 you have.

I guess there are some that just don't get it!!

OK, maybe if I type REAL SLOW and if you READ REAL SLOW you will understand this time?


For some reason only known to the Manufacturer, R-19 powder has not been what you might call real "CONSISTANT" from Batch-to-Batch. In other words; there are some "LOTS" of R-19 that are Sub-standard or"WEAKER" and not as POWERFUL as other "LOTS" of R-19!

In my way of thinking a "SUB-STANDARD" Lot or Batch of powder should have recall status as does a Lot or Batch that is too HOT!