Hi, i wrote here about H4831 that i cannot full enought in the case without crunching the bullet on the podwer. I will change powder : i need to know the best powder for my 30-06 with a 165 grains and 180 grains for MOOSE hunting in "open" field at long range like 200 yards.

Can you also tell me the best powder for a 243 win with 100 grains bullet with good precision in mind.

I also have a old 303 Br that i want to load at minimum velocity. Witch powder?

Can one podwer match all my needs? ;-)

Here, i can only buy HODGDON powder so...

Thanks all for help! I really like your reply...

A lot of powders work well in the 30-06. My all-time favorite, however, is H4350... I'd look no further! It works well with all bullet weight's and is temp insensitive.

61-62 gr's 150's
58-59 gr's 165's
56.5-57.5 gr's 180's

You're in luck, because H4350 is the best powder for the 165s, and should work very well for the 180s, too. Loaded alot of 165s and always used H4350, 57.5-58grs. work best, well, in pumps and autos, anyway. Jay

The only cartridge I load H4350 in is my 243Win with a 100 grain bullet. My Ruger M77 will put 5 shots into one ragged hole at 100 yds. with 40 grains of this powder behind a Core-lokt bullet and a Winchester LRP primer.

If you had to go with one powder in all three rifles than H 4895 would do the trick. If you could go with 2 powders than H4350 for 06 and 243 and H4895 for the Brit. Either way The powders will do their bit. roger

I've had excellent results in the 30-06 with Hodgdon 414 powder and bullets from 150 to 180 grains. I think it's slightly faster burning than any of the 4350s. I haven't tried it in a 243, but, from the data given in Hodgdon's loading manual, I think it is likely to work well in that cartridge too. Hodgdon also gives data for use of in in the 303 British, and that data looks good too.

So, I suggest that you get a pound of H 414 and see how it performs for you in your rifles.

H4350 gets my vote.

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Hi, i wrote here about H4831 that i cannot full enought in the case without crunching the bullet on the podwer

I shoot a compressed load of H4831 with Hornady 165. Very accurate load.

You could use a drop tube along with that H4831.

H-414 also works very well in the .30-06 with 165 grainers.

H4350 for me as well,

The very fist powder I tried for my 06 was IMR-4350. I have not felt the need to switch powders. It works extremely well.

I pretty much exclusively shoot 165 grainers out of it too.

If you want to try something different go with IMR 4064 in your '06 with 165 grain bullets.
I've found that a dose of 48 grains shoots 165 grain bullets well in both of my rifles.

With the 180 grain bullets its hard to argue with 4350.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
If you had to go with one powder in all three rifles than H 4895 would do the trick. If you could go with 2 powders than H4350 for 06 and 243 and H4895 for the Brit. Either way The powders will do their bit. roger

I like bartsche's idea. Buy a powder for the others, then load the 30-06. Therein lies the beauty of the 30-06 -it will do a good job with just about any powder that is suitable for a rifle.

Either of the 4350's, H414 and W-760 (which is nearly identical to H-414) are all excellent in the 30-06.

As a sidenote, I believe that temprature insensitive powder is a myth. Because it is not the characteristics of the powder that change with varying tempratures, it is the density of the atmosphere.

Wstrn, I've tested it enough in hot to cold temp's to know it's no myth (as well as other powders that aren't temp insensitive). The US Military doesn't think it's a myth either...

Absolutely great results with H-414 and 180gr anything. jorge

The onloy caution I would remind you (if you have any of them) that semiauto rifles may not like slow burning powders. Has to do with the pressure curve at the gas port.

For those, H4895 and BLC-2 work well with medium weight bullets for the 30-06.

I've been experimenting with IMR 4350 for one of my 06's lately suing the Hornady 165 Gr. Interlokt, it's showing promise at around 2800 fps. The loads out int he garage so I'll have to look it up later.

I use 56 gr of IMR 4350 with a 165gr Sierra HPBT. Works great in my rifle.

Gidday Guys,

My best load in the 30-06 is 53 gr IMR4064 behind a 150 gr ballistic tip, coreloct or hotcore.

Devastating on everything up to big red deer.

Happy Hunting

Hamish

I've only used IMR 4350 but my Dad swears by H4350. Once my supply of the IMR version is used up, I plan on using H4350.

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Originally posted by fireman23:
I've only used IMR 4350 but my Dad swears by H4350. Once my supply of the IMR version is used up, I plan on using H4350.

H4350 is a bit slower burning than IMR 4350. So, If you simply take the max load of H4350, and substitute the same amount of IMR 4350, you are likely to end up with a load that is too hot.

(Exactly the same difference and same point also applies to H 4831 and IMR 4831.)

I have also found the H4350 powder to be somewhat more accurate and/or give somewhat higher velocity in some applications with some rifles, than what can be attained using IMR 4350.

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Originally posted by Hamish:

My best load in the 30-06 is 53 gr IMR4064 behind a 150 gr ballistic tip, coreloct or hotcore.

I think that IMR 4064 is a great powder for 150 grain bullets in the '06 -- in fact, it may be the best available powder for this bullet weight.

But I think it is a bit too fast burning to be ideal with 180 grain bullets -- for 180s I think a better powder for those bullets and heavier ones in the '06 is one of the 4350s, H 414, W 760, one of the 4831s, or something else in the burning range of those.

But this applies only to non-autoloaders. If you are shooting an autoloader, a faster burning powder may be necessary in order that the pressure buildup not damage the mechanism of the rifle.