A ratio of 1 to 35?

I mean the largest group being 35btimes bigger than the smallest??

35 times no but I have a Mossberg that does 10 to 15 times

Saeed,
Are you "loading" Africa ammo for Walter again ?

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Originally posted by 30.06king:
Saeed,
Are you "loading" Africa ammo for Walter again ?

This is nothing.

What I loaded for Walter had a ration of 1-135!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by 30.06king:
Saeed,
Are you "loading" Africa ammo for Walter again ?

This is nothing.

What I loaded for Walter had a ration of 1-135!

Poor Walter probably wonders why his bullets bounce off animals too.

WHAT??? is this an inside joke or something?

I had a 6.5 Grendel that shot about 4-6" groups at 100 yards with a couple different ammo types but the ratio was solid. Haha

That rifle wore a new barrel within a 2 week period.

Zeke

SAeed,
take two Aspirin and a good nap, you been staying up too late at night!

Zeke,,, yeah kind of an inside Joke.
Saeed messes with Walter from time to time.


I've had a rifle shoot poor groups with bullets it didn't like or were too heavy for the twist rate.
heck I've had bullets not make it anywhere near the backer board before.

but 30-1,with a realistic bullet combo, noo.

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Originally posted by Lamar:
Zeke,,, yeah kind of an inside Joke.
Saeed messes with Walter from time to time.


I've had a rifle shoot poor groups with bullets it didn't like or were too heavy for the twist rate.
heck I've had bullets not make it anywhere near the backer board before.

but 30-1,with a realistic bullet combo, noo.

Lamar,
Good info and I totally agree. (Poor Walter)

*supposedly the 6.5 Grendel had an 8 twist and should have been perfect for the 120 range bullets but it literally shot 4-6" groups and it was a new rifle with an after-market properly bedded stock. But hey, the ratio was good, always a poor group. haha

With a new Douglas 8 twist screwed on, the thing now shoots right at .75 MOA with very little load development. Something was messed up and I wasn't willing to spend too long on a factory barrel when it shot like that.

Zeke

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A ratio of 1 to 35?

I mean the largest group being 35btimes bigger than the smallest??

I didn't know you were shooting Blasers

Are you sure Walter didn't slip in and load that ammo?

You lot are unbelievable!

I am trying to get some benefit of your experience, and all I get is blame!

You lot are the most undesirable ninompoops anyone could ever hope to have as friends!

And I am proud of you all.

I was shooting a FEINWERBAU MODEL 800 match rifle.

It is supposed to be used at 10 meters with ring sights.

I wanted to test different types of pellets in it.

So I removed the ring sights and installed a scope on it.

At 10 meters it was very difficult to measure some groups.

One hole for all intents.

So I moved the targets to 25 meters.

Some pellets shot in the 0.1s.

Other shot in several inches??

If you look at the air rifle forum, I have posted some results of various rifles.

I have not posted the results of this one yet.

I have finished shooting it, but I have to scan and sort the targets before doing that.

If you are interested in air rifles, you will find that forum of interest.

I will continue to update it.

I have many air guns, from 17 caliber to 45.

The 45 is a monster.

A friend borrowed it and shot an Arabian Oryx with it.

Got a new record, I think.

WALTHER LGB400

Smallest 10 shot group 0.08”
Largest 10 shot group over 14 inches!!

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Originally posted by carpetman1:

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A ratio of 1 to 35?

I mean the largest group being 35btimes bigger than the smallest??

I didn't know you were shooting Blasers

Does it count as a miss if your bullet turns into a gray cloud 5-10 yards from the muzzle?

If so, I've missed my aim point by 90 yards or more!

Saeed,

I had one rifle that wanted to be what you are asking about. It just refused to shoot 70 grain Barnes bullets with any respectable accuracy at all. This rifle was a Savage 12 FVSS, heavy 26 inch, fluted, stainless, barrel in .223. I started the work of solving it as I normally do, choosing a powder and charge weight I figured would likely work with the bullet I wanted the rifle to shoot. This was a rifle I bought for my first go at shooting deer with a .223 so I wanted to try the Barnes 70 grain TSX because at that time it gave me the most room for error in that there were a number of smaller Barnes bullets to work my way down through if the 70s worked acceptably on deer. When I did this experiment I had already solved a lot of rifles for Barnes and other monos and had established a practice of choosing a bullet and weight, a starting distance off the lands, and then seeing what the rifle liked for powder and charge. That generally produces groups that range from acceptable (sub Inch) to unacceptable (anything more), and the smallest groups usually show a marked preference for charge weight. Using the preferred charge, If I had some distance to shrink the groups to get then into acceptable I move up to .010 off the lands and shoot groups every .010 back off the lands until I find where the rifle wants the bullets seated. This particular rife wanted that bullet way back, .110 or .125 or something like that. But when I got there and did the testing to see what it liked best, it was very picky! Any more than .005 too far back or too close and it would go from 1/2 inch to 8 inch group size! To this day, that rifle is still like that. Dependable and consistently accurate at a very precise set back and worthless at anything else. My suspicion is that it is just barely able to shoot 70 grain TSXs with 9 twist barrel, and everything MUST be just right or it has a hissy fit.

In the back of my mind though is this: I have a 25-06 Remington 700, 26 inch heavy, fluted, stainless barrel, That is also extremely picky. It will shoot 100 grain monos into 2-4 inch groups with about any powder and charge weight at it's given choice of seating depth very consistently at velocities from 3300 to 3450. But, there is no combination I have found that will bring it under an inch until I drop the velocity to ~3225 and then it's happy. I have worked with it for a lot of time and it just won't produce accuracy above 3225. No pressure problems up at the top end, but that rifle just won't give up what that barrel can produce. So, maybe the moral of my story is don't try to make a silk purse out of a 26 inch, stainless, fluted, barrel.

Question for you. You have said before that you have no trouble with your Walterhog bullets and seating depth. I have found each rifle and each copper bullet to be laws unto themselves. To bring them under an inch takes careful work finding the load and seating depth. Is this over lots of rifles and bullet weights? I have seen some rifles that just shoot them well, but most will not without finding exactly what that rifle wants. I have only used TSX, TTSX, GMX and E-Tips, but that pattern holds with them.