Maybe this has been discussed but who's bright idea was it to start using small primers in the .45acp? Just went thru sizing brass and was cleaning primer pockets when I noticed I had some with small primer pockets. I know they were range pick ups because I now remember someone at the range saying some of what he bought had small primers and he found out when he reloaded them. I single stage reload and clean my primer pockets on all brass so I was able to catch it but what about the guys with progressive set ups?

Blazer. I sorted a bunch and loaded the blazer brass small primer and they shot good.
They sure would jam up the operation on a progressive if you got one or two in the cycle.
Dave

I was thinking it all started in some of the tree hugger no lead ammo.

Royal pain if I end up with any from the range I toss them. Not worth dealing with.

As far as I can tell, the .45 ACP brass with small primers was the NT load (Non-toxic load) with no exposed lead or lead in the primer compound marketed for indoor ranges. It was likely more economical to produce one size of lead free primers as most (maybe all?) NT primers are used in pistol rounds and you can bet the majority go into 9mm and 38 Special.

Makes me glad all my new and used .45 ACP brass is 15-20 years old.

Not a big deal for me since I sort by headstamp anyway. I think Federal has some as well.

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Originally posted by larrys:
Not a big deal for me since I sort by headstamp anyway. I think Federal has some as well.

These were Federal.

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Originally posted by GunCat:
As far as I can tell, the .45 ACP brass with small primers was the NT load (Non-toxic load) with no exposed lead or lead in the primer compound marketed for indoor ranges. It was likely more economical to produce one size of lead free primers as most (maybe all?) NT primers are used in pistol rounds and you can bet the majority go into 9mm and 38 Special.

Makes me glad all my new and used .45 ACP brass is 15-20 years old.

Close, but not quite on the money.
The NT priming compound is hotter than the regular compound, and as they couldn't get both a smaller amount and reliable ignition (at a reliable level, they got "super magnum" primers IE: WAY to hot) in the large size cup it was decided to go with the small primer size in the few cases that normally use the large ones.

Easy answer, separate out the small ones, and when you have enough to make a batch simply prime them with small primers. No need to make a big fuss about it (like some people do)

No fuss here I just tossed them in my scrap brass bucket!

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Originally posted by Tailgunner:


Easy answer, separate out the small ones, and when you have enough to make a batch simply prime them with small primers. No need to make a big fuss about it (like some people do)

Exactly. They work just fine. Think I have a big coffee can full all cleaned, sizes and ready to load.

Dillon's 'Blue Press' printed an ARTICLE A YEAR OR SO BACK THAT FIRST INFORMED ME OF THIS.USING A PROGRESSIVE WOULD REALLY MESS YOU UP IN PRODUCTION RUN.I HAVE A RANGE HERE ON THE PROPERTY BUT WHEN I TAKE MY SONS + MYSELF TO THE LOCAL RANGE FOR OUR UPDATE ON OUR CCL + THEY DON'T LET YOU KEEP YOUR OWN BRASS (THEY SELL IT.)I TELL THE BOYS,TODAY WE'LL SHOOT BLAZERS,LET THEM PICK THEM UP.

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Originally posted by Tailgunner:

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Originally posted by GunCat:
As far as I can tell, the .45 ACP brass with small primers was the NT load (Non-toxic load) with no exposed lead or lead in the primer compound marketed for indoor ranges. It was likely more economical to produce one size of lead free primers as most (maybe all?) NT primers are used in pistol rounds and you can bet the majority go into 9mm and 38 Special.

Makes me glad all my new and used .45 ACP brass is 15-20 years old.

Close, but not quite on the money.
The NT priming compound is hotter than the regular compound, and as they couldn't get both a smaller amount and reliable ignition (at a reliable level, they got "super magnum" primers IE: WAY to hot) in the large size cup it was decided to go with the small primer size in the few cases that normally use the large ones.

Easy answer, separate out the small ones, and when you have enough to make a batch simply prime them with small primers. No need to make a big fuss about it (like some people do)

I stand corrected, thanks for the information.

Yes
I too have been getting alot of those small small primer federal, Speer, Blazer small primer cases.

I'm collecting them up to make a 500 pc load .
If you don't want them or have a bunch
I will TRADE you 1 for 1 for large primer brass.
Just need at least a full smail usps flat rate box worth. to make it worth spending the $5
I increased the powder by .1 gr. too compensate for the small charge.

I use a 225gr hard lead moly coat, and 4.8 gr bullseye.

thats my standard reload for sale.
for my CZ97B I use the same moly caoted 225 gr and Win 231 or AutoComp powder when I can get it.