So here is my luck. I just get finished spending close to $1,000 bucks on Reloading Equipment...everything from soup to nuts. Check my Hornady Reloader's manual to find a load for my 204 Ruger 32gr V-max, find one then start looking for powder and primers...THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NOTHING AVAILABLE ANYWHERE!!! Forget about Vhita N140 and Remington 7&1/2 primers. I couldn't find anything that wasn't "out of stock".
What are you guys doing to find components?? Am I missing something here? I know that there is an ammo shortage going on but didn't realize this.
The components started drying up shortly after ammo started getting scarce due to all the panic buying that went/is going on, surprised you weren't aware of it. Most of us aren't finding much in the way of components either, and are relying on stock laid in after the last (3yrs ago) "shortage".
Posts: 8169 | Location: humboldt | Registered: 10 April 2002
The Military-Style Rifle 'Bubble' May Have Burst Monday, June 24, 2013 12:18:12 AM · by blam · 17 replies Business Insider ^ | 6-24-2013 | Rob Wile The Military-Style Rifle 'Bubble' May Have Burst Rob Wile June 23, 2013, 6:53 PMDemand for military-style rifles like the AR-15 have peaked, according to one account (as Tweeted by NYCAviation's Phil Derner Jr.). Nick Leghorn, the testing and reviews editor for TheTruthAboutGuns.com, says he recently attempted to sell another assault rifle, a 16" modified 300 Blackout rifle online. But he found the market wanting, and ended up settling for an offer $700 below the list price. He continues: When I walked into the local Cabela’s and saw racks upon racks of AR-15 rifles (pictured above)(Can't post the Getty image) for...
Posts: 19879 | Location: wis | Registered: 21 April 2001
It will start to get a little better in a few months.
Then the 2014 election will come and the Democrats will steal control of the house and retain the Senate. That will spark the Democrats to re-introduce there gun ban agenda.
It will then get even worse than is has ever been. The Democrats will be successful in their plan to ban and confiscate and the shortages will become permanent.
Posts: 1205 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: 07 February 2004
Ammunition and component manufacturers are still going full-steam, but if you read the trade publications it is clear that they are preparing for a big slow-down in the near future. They realize that the recent demand is unsustainable. As the president of Nosler was quoted as saying (paraphrasing here) "Everybody that wants a 180 grain .30 caliber Partition already has a 180 grain .30 caliber Partition."
Hoarders can't sustain a market indefinitely, and eventually their widows will dump their hoards in garage sales for pennies on the dollar. Probably the worst financial "investment" you can make at the moment is a supply of reloading components at the going gray market prices (unless you'd like to buy some Enron stock).
Posts: 13286 | Location: Henly, TX, USA | Registered: 04 April 2001
I went through the same thing 4-5 years back, after spending $2000 of equipment (much of it doesn't work for me so don't try getting too advanced into reloading before putting the time in). Then I spent 3-4 gran on powder & primers and been buying more all along, got 80-90 lbs powder, 10K in bullets, and 4 green ammo boxes full of primers; my grandkids won't want for ammo long after I've left this good earth; peace of mind for me from a family of hunters.
You'll get there, especially after supplies come back to normal by late summer. Cabelas has the best supply of bullets, and best shipping prices, free if ya spend 3-4 hundred and demand it. Shooters Pro Shop has best prices on bullets, get signed in and watch their site every couple days from lunch on. I do best price wise from my favorite LGS. I let him know like 20 different powders, primers I'm looking for; he gets me 5-6 every month or two; better than nothing from Sportsmans. Just because the shelves ain't over flowing, you don't have to give up on reloading & shooting; just get better at looking for the supplies.
Supplies are hard to find in Alaska too, but I ain't even getting close to worrying about running out. When the supplies get back to normal, stock up with a large selection (3-4 one lb cans each) of various powders for the calibers you use. Don't get the 8 lb cans and don't get just a few flavors.
And above all, don't listen to all this talk about hoarders being evil people. The hoarders were just smarter than those who didn't stock up and those who didn't know it deep inside their souls too.
Good Luck, you'll get there.
Posts: 521 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 12 April 2010
I had to go to pawn shops to find components. All the major stores like bimart, forget it. I found pistol and rifle primers,, but paid about twice what they're worth. Got lucky and bought their last pound of RL-25. A brick if 22 long cost $44
Hoarders can't sustain a market indefinitely, and eventually their widows will dump their hoards in garage sales for pennies on the dollar.
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Hoarders can't sustain a market indefinitely, and eventually their widows will dump their hoards in garage sales for pennies on the dollar.
Nope not me, My widow has strick orders not to sell my hoard, Ammo has gone up more then my 401K, if anything else my grandkids will shoot $20-$30 boxes of ammo while their friends are buying $100 boxes
And above all, don't listen to all this talk about hoarders being evil people. The hoarders were just smarter than those who didn't stock up and those who didn't know it deep inside their souls too.
Good Luck, you'll get there.
Hey Zhurn, how's it going ? Nice to see you are well prepared as am I. How's thing over at TFF?
Posts: 1205 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: 07 February 2004
Doing good steve, was shooting off the back porch bench today in the heat. We had snow everywhere 3-4 weeks back, supposed to be 95 on Wednesday. I had this AR-10 in 338 fed that I stuck a 3.5X35 acog (red dot ghost ring) on her and have killed 4 moose and a few caribou with that boat anchor. Never had a fine cross hair scope on that gun until today. Had this cheap Leupold 1-4 on a PEPR; stuck it on the AR-10; was cuttin holes within the hour; and I never knew how good that gun would group cause used the acog on her. 30-378 Weatherby was .5 two inches high as always has been. I had an acog on the 308 Scar and had 2 out of 3 holes in the bulleye was happy enough. I'm waiting on a Larue LT-104 and sticking the Vortex on the Scar for the summer;;;; but the Acog will be back on for hunting season. My 308 loads 42.5 grains of TAC with 165 ttsxs right at 2.810 chronoed between 2480 & 2510, in the heat. Hey, when I'm shooting off the back porch, I'm content. Bugs were bad though, had the Thermacell on the bench, kept getting knocked off from the blast, she still workey though. Thats what I've doin, ha ha.
I check TFF every few days, it's just not like it was say a year back. How about gun feed.com? I see all kinds of new gear on there.
My nephew was up a month back, brought an Elcan 1.5X6 SpecterDR, what a scope, super glass. He also had a set of GeoVids, nicest Binos I have ever got to play around with; coming from a 300 dollar bino guy.
Shelves are still bare in AK, but the small gunshops continue to get reloading supplies in for me. In july, I'm picking up a S&W MP-10 308 , CA model, $1414, I think that's a fair price.
Don't mean to go on, life's been good here along the Yukon.
Posts: 521 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 12 April 2010
When all this started i thought it will only last 6 months or so. Wrong! So latley i have been getting components from far and wide. I drove 20 minutes north a few weeks ago to buy 1 box of small rifle primers. I lucked up and found some 55 gr. FMJ bullets on cabelas. Stopped by a store thats an hour away to get some powder for the .375 H&H.
Unless you trying to load .223 you can find stuff. Ive been trying to buy some Varget for the last week, no luck so far.
I have walked in the foot prints of the elephant, listened to lion roar and met the buffalo on his turf. I shall never be the same.
Posts: 813 | Location: In the shadow of Currahee | Registered: 29 January 2009
While I'm not going to be much help, I will share a couple of websites where they are still coming up with powder on a semi regular basis. One is Powder Valley, Inc. Google it and you can peruse through their inventory. Another one is 3rdgss.com They are getting dribblings of powder in and you have to check with their webiste to see if what you are looking for is coming in or is in stock but they have been a good source over the last 2 months. No Varget but they did have some of the more common powders. When they get them, they don't last long and you have to order to get. As much as I traditionally shoot, I have a pretty good supply so all I can do is keep adding to what I have. Hope that helps out some.
[QUOTE]As the president of Nosler was quoted as saying (paraphrasing here) "Everybody that wants a 180 grain .30 caliber Partition already has a 180 grain .30 caliber Partition."
Hoarders can't sustain a market indefinitely, and eventually their widows will dump their hoards in garage sales for pennies on the dollar. QUOTE]
It's hurt those of us who like to shoot 1000plus rounds a month. I never thought a president could be so unaware of his bread and butter. Maybe he's a democrat?
Posts: 659 | Location: "The Muck", NJ | Registered: 10 April 2004
IF I enjoyed shooting 1000 rounds a month or 100 rounds a month, I would never be caught with my pants down outta supplies that would carry me through whatever or how long a shortage might last. The way I see life, everybody is responsible for their own condition. I'm not one that accepts being dependent on anything or anybody for any reason and I strive to teach my kids to live up to that standard.
If others make wise investment for their future, prepare for tough times in any way they can; far be it from me to claim their approach is wrong. Me thinks they are the wiser than those who haven't.
Also, where we live, hunting guns are an integral part of everyday life; they have a special respected place within the family; boy I wish I'd see some guns & ammo at Garage Sales. I imagine it has become quite different back East from all the legislation that continues to become law back there. You Easterners got to make things right again back there.
Posts: 521 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 12 April 2010
Originally posted by Minkman: [QUOTE]As the president of Nosler was quoted as saying (paraphrasing here) "Everybody that wants a 180 grain .30 caliber Partition already has a 180 grain .30 caliber Partition."
Hoarders can't sustain a market indefinitely, and eventually their widows will dump their hoards in garage sales for pennies on the dollar. QUOTE]
It's hurt those of us who like to shoot 1000plus rounds a month. I never thought a president could be so unaware of his bread and butter. Maybe he's a democrat?
He is very aware. Either the demand will ease, or a ban will go into effect (remember after Boston there was a few bills to ban powder).
Buying a lot of machinery and feedstock isn't a good move. Maximize your product flow now, and don't build to supply the bubble.
I imagine it has become quite different back East from all the legislation that continues to become law back there. You Easterners got to make things right again back there.
The peoples republic of Maryland isn't going to get better anytime soon, I've done my part I raised two that will be voting in 2016 and another in 2020 if he wishes to inherit, I'll be darned if I leave anything to a druggie or a liberal. wishing I could sell out and move west. MD is controlled by three counties that surround the cess pool DC and Baltimore. the rest is red
I planned for months to get into reloading over Christmas break this past year. I got out of school on 12/17.....bad timing, in case you don't remember, that was the day of the shooting..
Anyhow could not find anything in Eastern Nort Carolina until an early June Gun Show. Got 3000 LRP and five pounds of powder...all at decent prices.
I have a list of powder that I want and I now have # 3,4 and 6.
I hope the next show next month will be better still.
Try a gun show!
Good luck.
Posts: 6 | Location: Eastern North Carolina | Registered: 15 April 2013
I ordered a Geisselle today, then called Sinclair as I prefer buying from Brownells than practically anywheres else. Asked them if they had 4-5 different bullet flavors, that Lyman trigger scale, some Lapua brass, and a few other items. They only had one bullet that I wanted. So to avoid double shipping costs, I called Cabelas and they had everything Brownells was outta of and shipping was only 19 bucks. Cabelas even had 308 Lapua brass. So I spent some bucks at Cabelas. How come Brownells/Sinclair and all the other mail order houses are always outta stock and cabelas usually has it in stock. If you call Cabelas, the dry times is over folks.
I feel for ya Easterners and I'm not being funny. I wonder how people can be so stupid to buy into all the left wing mindset and give away their rights. Pennsylvania isn't as bad as some of their neighboring states, but I couldn't even imagine how I lived there until I was almost 40, never realizing how much better other parts of the country maybe were? Hopefully, someday we'll get another Reagen revolution and things will turn around back East.
Posts: 521 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 12 April 2010
Originally posted by steve4102: It will start to get a little better in a few months.
Then the 2014 election will come and the Democrats will steal control of the house and retain the Senate. That will spark the Democrats to re-introduce there gun ban agenda.
It will then get even worse than is has ever been. The Democrats will be successful in their plan to ban and confiscate and the shortages will become permanent.
Not after what shit-for-brains has done for his party. They will all bail from his Marxist traitor ass over the next year, but that won't help much. Plus his racist voters will have no incentive to get off their porches this election, so maybe the election will be slightly less corrupted.
I predict a major backlash for all his crap, and he will have to serve his last two years of reign as king shit in gridlock, totally controlled by congress. It is then there will be another scandal surface which he will blame on some white conservative group, and step down. Then we get an old idiot to serve out the remainder of the term.
Either that or he just gets a good STD and is proclaimed even more of a hero. Mount Rushmore might be next.
Posts: 2852 | Location: Michigan | Registered: 02 September 2001
Not after what shit-for-brains has done for his party.
What shit for brains has done for his party is set up the biggest voter fraud network the world has ever seen.
There will never be another free and honest election in this Country ever again. Ever.
These Socialists have no reason to worry about getting re-elected ever again. They will strategically stuff the ballot box in Key location to gain control. Then little by little they will expand their ballot box stuffing until they have enough power and control to totally destroy the Constitution once and for all.
Posts: 1205 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: 07 February 2004
Originally posted by Stonecreek: Ammunition and component manufacturers are still going full-steam, but if you read the trade publications it is clear that they are preparing for a big slow-down in the near future. They realize that the recent demand is unsustainable. As the president of Nosler was quoted as saying (paraphrasing here) "Everybody that wants a 180 grain .30 caliber Partition already has a 180 grain .30 caliber Partition."
Hoarders can't sustain a market indefinitely, and eventually their widows will dump their hoards in garage sales for pennies on the dollar. Probably the worst financial "investment" you can make at the moment is a supply of reloading components at the going gray market prices (unless you'd like to buy some Enron stock).
An excellent post
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Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003
Originally posted by steve4102: It will start to get a little better in a few months.
Then the 2014 election will come and the Democrats will steal control of the house and retain the Senate. That will spark the Democrats to re-introduce there gun ban agenda.
It will then get even worse than is has ever been. The Democrats will be successful in their plan to ban and confiscate and the shortages will become permanent.
I don't think so. joe
Posts: 236 | Location: Florida | Registered: 08 September 2012
Originally posted by steve4102: It will start to get a little better in a few months.
Then the 2014 election will come and the Democrats will steal control of the house and retain the Senate. That will spark the Democrats to re-introduce there gun ban agenda.
It will then get even worse than is has ever been. The Democrats will be successful in their plan to ban and confiscate and the shortages will become permanent.
I don't think so. joe
It's already happened here in MN. Al Frankin won by 16K votes. After he was sworn in investigations showed more than 44K of fraudulent votes for Frankin, most were deceased voters and many were just false names and addresses.
This is also what happened with Cravaack and Nolen. Nolen was behind in every pole by more that 20 point before the election. He won by more than 15 points. Investigating is still going on.
Posts: 1205 | Location: Minnesota | Registered: 07 February 2004
Steve, both the crooked Party's steal whenever & whatever they can; but they can't steal every race. I really believe the gun control & shortage of ammo issues will make a repeat of 94 very likely.
No offense, I never even caught onto the vibe of JLA being a lefty, ha ha, but I'm pretty simple about those things; it gave me a harr just the same.
Ain't no rifle or pistol powder anywhere in Alaska; all those dang hoarders (who must have been smarter than the rest of us) buy it soon as she comes in, no joke. Even mum & pop gun shops who would order me powder, primers, and supplies just 3 months back; won't do it no more. They say the can't get it themselves. They claim all the manufacturers are using their supplies for ammo production, make more money I guess.
I was talking to a guy from Western Powders (accurate & ramshot) and he said the shortage is still everywhere in lower 48. I said that I keep reading supplies are coming back and he said don't believe it. Who knows? I got plenty of supplies but want to try new powder flavors out, can't seem to find it. No full shelves in Alaska.
Posts: 521 | Location: Alaska | Registered: 12 April 2010
I was trying to get get some components together to start reloading for a 264 WinMag that is on the way. I either had or acquired everything I needed...except a suitably slow powder. It had been a while since I had to purchase powder and I was SHOCKED when I started looking for anything to make this bird fly. Everything in local stores was gone and online sources were dry. By a huge stroke of luck, I happened to walk into a sporting goods store about 50 miles from home the morning after they got a shipment and they had three 1 pound canisters of Retumbo. Hopefully this shortage will clear up before I use up one pound because I left two of the canisters for other reloaders. I certainly was tempted to clear the shelf. Since Retumbo was powder I really wanted to try first I am very happy. Good luck to everyone needing more powder. I bet they sure are busy in St. Marks.
