I discovered somehow and at sometime that spit (saliva) on a patch seems to work as a bore cleaner (patches come out real black). Has anyone else had experience with this or know whether or not it's ever been seriously evaluated? Advantages are (1) no exposure to toxic chemicals, (2) you always have some with you, (3) inexpensive (I"ll say! ).
Posts: 1946 | Location: Michigun | Registered: 23 May 2002
Saliva has enzymes(sp) that start the digestion of the food you eat and would probably work somewhat as a solvent. However, it would leave an unwanted film in the bore that would harden as it dried.
Hey Krakenburger, I said "spit", not wee wee, and Leo, how do you KNOW it will leave a film(?) in the barrel (obviously you run dry patches through as a last step)?
Posts: 1946 | Location: Michigun | Registered: 23 May 2002
Will you have brushed and flossed your teeth before salivating your barrel? You wouldn't want food particles to become lodged in the chamber.
Also, if you drink a soft drink before you start cleaning your rifle, then your spit will have sugar in it. It is well known that too much sugar can cause cavities, so by extension this could pit your bore.
I guess one way to prevent spit from hurting your barrel would to chew some Dentyne before each cleaning session.
You might want consider consulting someone who is a dentist and gunsmith before pursuing this further. Also, spit shining your barrel may be difficult if you live in the desert, or if you have a really bad cold.
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I know the next rifle will be the answer to all my hunting needs....
Need - I of course am referring to regular, clean, normal, everyday, run-of-the-mill, unsweetened, smooth not chunky, well after eating or drinking (except water), SPIT!!
And leo, how about a reply to my ?
C'mon guys, I'm serious about this and would like some serious replys backed up with experience and/or facts/research. I thought at times it cleaned better than commercial cleaners I tried!
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Posts: 1946 | Location: Michigun | Registered: 23 May 2002
that was supposed to be a funny. But on the more serious side, your saliva has acid in it, the first part of the digestive system is the saliva and chewing that goes on in most peoples mouths. I don't know if it will harm your bore or not but I think I'll stick with the regular cleaning stuff for my more expensive guns.
RJS
Posts: 210 | Location: North Texas | Registered: 03 August 2001
Saliva contains : water, protein, enzymes, bacteria cells, and dead cells from your mouth, salts, food bits, some organic acids and carbonated acid...etc.
When saliva is being put on a hot surface like a gun bore, it really leaves a "film" as it dries up, and kinda stinks.
Posts: 638 | Location: O Canada! | Registered: 21 December 2001
Saliva stinks huh, well I think the usual solvents (Shooters Choice, Hoppes, or you name it) stink a whole lot worst AND they ARE dangerous chemicals to get on yer skin OR inhale tha fumes thereof - saliva is NOT! Like I said I've seen patches come out real black using spit As far as leaving a film, I'm talking about cleaning a bore after your done shooting and it has cooled down. What kind of fumes are given off by bore cleaners when they're heated? Very poisonous I'm sure.
Posts: 1946 | Location: Michigun | Registered: 23 May 2002
quote:Originally posted by sonofagun: Saliva stinks huh, well I think the usual solvents (Shooters Choice, Hoppes, or you name it) stink a whole lot worst AND they ARE dangerous chemicals to get on yer skin OR inhale tha fumes thereof - saliva is NOT!
sonofagun-
You seem determined to make a point, to the point of being defensive over a trivial subject. If you want to use spit, go ahead. Myself, I'll pass. I can use solvents and never get them on my skin.
I am not sure why you have this saliva idea in the first place, and you probably want to hear people say it's a great idea, yet I don't find it practical. Commercial solvents are not that toxic, basically industrial solvents loaded with ammoniac salts, you don't get bad health unless you inhale it.
If you used pure water, patches come out as black as well, but just like saliva, it will NEVER remove copper.
Posts: 638 | Location: O Canada! | Registered: 21 December 2001
Sonofagun, yes you can run dry patches down the bore but saliva is not all that likely to be wiped clean from a bore like a regular solvent would be. Heck, I guess it wouldn't hurt anything.
Let's be scientific about this - would someone "out there" who has a bore scope, please test my idea (yea, yea, I admit it's rather %$#&^%y!), BUT just think of how the WHOLE WORLD will GREATLY benefit if it does work!!!!!!!!!!!!WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, this would tell us exactly how it might compare as a cleaner.
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actual 35 shot group 753.9 yards, .030 inches .300 sonofagun (wildcat) magnum, shot ONLY AFTER cleaning bore with...guess what?
Posts: 1946 | Location: Michigun | Registered: 23 May 2002
If you used Scope or Listerine to clean your barrel, would it reduce that "bad bore smell" that is so embarrassing when your big bore meets a pretty little varmint gun in the rack?
quote:Originally posted by scout: You spit would not be consistent. Your toothpaste, food, drink, etc. Would change the chemical balance in your Spit...
So you better figure out what you should put in your mouth before going shooting.
I am sure there is a much better solution. Get it, solution� I like the smell of Hoppe�s No. 9
Late....
AHA! You need to read my post of 4-6 @ 23:45, The sspecified sspit WOULD be conssisstent!
They laughed at Galileo and Copernicus too!
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Posts: 1946 | Location: Michigun | Registered: 23 May 2002
Sure, Galileo and Copernicus got accused and burned but for a good cause.
Sonofagun, please, if you are such a believer, run a scientific test, give us some proof, then you can ask us to believe. Maybe it will lead to a new compound of great cleaning characteristics.
Otherwise you are just wasting your time.
Posts: 638 | Location: O Canada! | Registered: 21 December 2001
And where did I ask anyone to believe? I just asked if anyone else had any information, experience, or knowledge concerning this subject - EXCUUUUUUUSSSEE ME!
Posts: 1946 | Location: Michigun | Registered: 23 May 2002