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17 April 2003, 01:29
Bob257
Swift Scirroco
Does anyone else have problems with these bullets? I can't get them to group and when I weighed them they vary up to a grain in weight. This could explain some of the poor groups. I'm shooting the 180 grain 30 calibers in a 300 Win Mag.

Bob257
17 April 2003, 07:32
R Flowers
Bob, I too had problems getting the Swift Scirocco to shoot for me.

After seeing a buddy shoot a big old wild hog with a 7STW with one of these bullets I just had to try them. (Hell, even the guide had to ask just what the hell kind of gun he was shooting.)

However, I have tried them in a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mm Weatherby Mag and have not been pleased. I cannot get consistant accuracy with them. I might shoot a reasonable group with them, then with shells from the same box of reloads I might shoot an AWFULL group. I give up!

I do not know how they will work yet, but I did try a box of the new Nosler Accubonds the other day. I have only been able to find a box of the 200 grain 30 caliber bullets so far. However, they made nice round 3/4 inch groups in my 300 Weatherby at nearly 3100 fps using RL 25 powder.
I know where there is a big old hog hanging out, I have plans for him.

Too bad, I just cannot get the Swifts to shoot for me. I have had much better luck getting the Swift A-Frame bullet to shoot. I worked up loads for a guy to use in his 375 H&H, man would those things shoot.

R F
17 April 2003, 12:25
sakofan
Gee, my 300WM seems to like the Scirocco's fine.
180gr. Rl25 79.5-80.5gr. gives me real good groups...but, not as good as those ol' Matchkings...LOL...sakofan....I would like to try the A-frame soon...
17 April 2003, 14:40
marc357
I tried the 180 Sciroccos in My .300 win mag. Wouldn't group worth a darn. Buddy had similar experience. The Nosler Ballistic Tips grouped under 1/2 inch in the same gun.... Anyone interested in a half a box of Sciroccos? [Wink]
17 April 2003, 15:08
<JLBMI>
I tried the 180's in my 300 RUM and in a 30/378.
I could not get to group in either rifle. Both rifles shoot Nosler BT's into nice tight groups. I gave up on them too.
17 April 2003, 16:10
OldFart
Their terminal performance is awful. I'm surprised that you are having problems grouping them.
18 April 2003, 09:44
1894
Big lot to lot variation pressure wise in the 7mm ones I had - rework up carefuly if buying a different lot.
18 April 2003, 01:20
Bob257
Thanks for the responses. I see I'm not the only one having problems. Time to go to Nosler or Sierra or Hornady I guess. I haven't had much luck getting Barnes to shoot in other calibers either so I probably won't try them.
Thanks again!

Bob257
18 April 2003, 08:12
sakofan
Bob, Iam going with Sierra exclusively...sakofan..
18 April 2003, 08:27
fredj338
I believe the Scirroco is a pure copper jacket & has sim. problems that the 'x' bullets do. I'll stick w/ Noslers.
18 April 2003, 13:15
<Austin>
I shoot 180 scirocco's in 308 warbird & 300 WSM both guns shoot 1/2" @ 100y. Trick is they like to be .060 off the lands.

Warbird 102G R25 Federal 215M
WSM 69.5G IMR 4831 Fed 215M
18 April 2003, 13:24
<Rifleman7>
300 RUM and Rem factory loaded Swifts - POS. Two to four inch 3-shot groups at 100. Hand loaded 165 HP Game Kings around .75".
18 April 2003, 16:43
Frank Nowakowski
Try starting with an absolutely CLEAN barrel. I have found the Scirrocos easier to make shoot than ANY of the copper X bullets. Then again if they don't work, give the new Nosler accubonds a try, should work very similar.

FN in MT
20 April 2003, 07:55
Kyler Hamann
I've only seriously tested the Scirrocos in a m-700 in .300 Wby and had great luck. The gun isn't brag'n accurate with anything but it shoots these Swifts fine. I've finished off a bunch of gut shot feral pigs with them and found they average around 85% retained weight... that's about 80% better than Ballistic Tips in my experience.
Sure Partitions, A-Frames, etc. retain more but the Scirrocos don't get banged up if shooting with the same few in the bottom of the magazine. They have been a little more forgiving to work up loads for than the X's.
I think the bonded Noslers and Hornadys should be fine too.

Kyler
21 April 2003, 04:59
POP
Tried the 180 in my 300 RUM. 3250 fps with RL 25 and 1.5" groups at 200 yds.
22 April 2003, 04:15
<Delta Hunter>
The 180 Scirocco has been pretty accurate in my .300 Weatherby Sako, but I'm not too crazy about its performance on game and I also don't like what a pure copper jacket does to my barrel. I'll be using something else this year.