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Anybody got a recipe for these components; 110 Nosler AB, H414. The Nosler manual seems very conservative at 47 grns W760 max. Jim fur, feathers, & meat in the freezer "Pass it on to your kids" | ||
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Sorry, what's a 25 Ackley Improved? | |||
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Thanks Steve, 257 Roberts AI Jim fur, feathers, & meat in the freezer "Pass it on to your kids" | |||
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I also have some RL 19 Jim fur, feathers, & meat in the freezer "Pass it on to your kids" | |||
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As a general rule when working up a load for an AI, I start at the max load for the standard cartridge. Depending on the cartridge the charge can be increased from 2-5%. If the load you are using from the Nosler manual is already for the AI version, that is the max load from their testing. If with that load you are in the 3000-3100fps range you are where you should be. You can maybe gain another 50-100fps by pushing pressures to the max, but why? | |||
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Nosler #6 and #7 list 45.5gr of 760 as Max for the 110gr Accubond in the 257 Roberts AI at 2981fps out of a 24 inch barrel. Quickload has this load at 2956fps, 48,043psi. QL list the Max Average pressure at 51,488psi. If you want more than that with 760 you will have to load to higher pressure than 51K. What kind of rifle are you loading for and can it handle higher pressures? The 257 is one of those cartridges that runs at lower pressures due to some older weaker actions that can't handle the pressures of a modern bolt action. | |||
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Steve, it is a 1980's WIN FW, push feed, long action Jim fur, feathers, & meat in the freezer "Pass it on to your kids" | |||
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Then I would bring it up to 62K psi. Use at your own risk. Cartridge : .257 Roberts Imp. Bullet : .257, 110, Nosler AccuBond 53742 Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.775 inch or 70.49 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 155 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Norma MRP 104.3 54.8 3.55 3290 99.5 62000 12913 1.099 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 106.0 54.6 3.54 3277 97.2 62000 13104 1.096 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 517 108.6 58.4 3.78 3267 98.0 62000 12857 1.089 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 12 108.4 58.3 3.78 3267 98.1 62000 12840 1.089 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate MAGPRO 106.3 56.9 3.69 3262 95.7 62000 13113 1.103 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 SSC 104.5 54.1 3.50 3259 97.5 62000 12684 1.088 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA15 106.3 54.1 3.51 3254 98.7 62000 12662 1.102 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-22 106.3 54.1 3.51 3254 98.7 62000 12662 1.102 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 106.3 54.1 3.51 3254 98.7 62000 12662 1.102 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester WXR 109.1 54.4 3.52 3253 98.6 62000 12669 1.102 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP15 109.1 54.4 3.52 3253 98.6 62000 12669 1.102 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 110.0 53.8 3.49 3244 97.4 61092 12642 1.095 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2213 105.4 53.7 3.48 3242 97.4 62000 12548 1.087 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho 17 93.6 49.5 3.21 3237 100.0 62000 11453 1.100 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 93.6 49.5 3.21 3237 100.0 62000 11453 1.100 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Magnum 105.8 58.0 3.76 3228 99.1 62000 12088 1.095 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AP 2214 109.1 57.1 3.70 3225 97.6 62000 12357 1.087 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 55.1 3.57 3214 99.9 57223 12370 1.131 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R905 107.4 53.7 3.48 3214 97.0 62000 12276 1.103 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2209 102.3 51.2 3.32 3210 98.4 62000 11986 1.092 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-19 102.8 51.8 3.36 3207 98.5 62000 12054 1.100 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 511 95.2 51.1 3.31 3207 99.8 62000 11762 1.106 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 98.3 51.2 3.31 3205 99.8 62000 11744 1.106 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 92.9 49.5 3.21 3203 99.5 62000 11780 1.108 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 92.9 49.5 3.21 3203 99.5 62000 11780 1.108 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 100.2 50.2 3.25 3200 100.0 62000 10936 1.114 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP14 ~approximation 103.6 52.2 3.38 3199 98.5 62000 11963 1.101 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 108.9 55.9 3.62 3197 95.2 62000 12272 1.093 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 97.9 48.8 3.16 3186 100.0 62000 11273 1.112 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 97.9 48.8 3.16 3186 100.0 62000 11270 1.112 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 95.1 48.9 3.17 3185 100.0 62000 11405 1.116 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 97.5 50.7 3.29 3181 98.3 62000 11738 1.101 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 ~approximation 100.7 50.7 3.29 3181 98.3 62000 11738 1.101 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 100.7 50.7 3.29 3181 98.3 62000 11738 1.101 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 97.1 48.9 3.17 3181 100.0 62000 11249 1.129 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 108.1 52.9 3.43 3175 96.7 62000 11809 1.098 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 SC 104.0 52.9 3.43 3175 96.7 62000 11809 1.098 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S385 103.0 52.5 3.40 3168 99.1 62000 11546 1.120 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4831 102.7 49.6 3.21 3166 100.0 62000 11028 1.121 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 91.5 47.6 3.08 3164 100.0 62000 10850 1.111 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 98.3 50.3 3.26 3159 99.3 62000 11355 1.113 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 3100 106.3 53.5 3.47 3156 99.8 62000 11257 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester Supreme 780 101.3 53.8 3.49 3153 98.4 62000 11420 1.106 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N165 108.4 54.0 3.50 3150 98.9 62000 11250 1.110 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R904 101.5 50.4 3.27 3148 97.4 62000 11421 1.103 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S070 97.5 48.6 3.15 3144 99.5 62000 11181 1.121 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 100.5 49.0 3.17 3144 100.0 62000 10392 1.112 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 100.2 49.4 3.20 3142 99.1 62000 11134 1.106 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 90.4 46.5 3.02 3142 100.0 62000 10895 1.120 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 98.3 49.3 3.19 3142 99.2 62000 11115 1.106 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 92.5 47.0 3.04 3139 99.6 62000 10855 1.094 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 91.1 45.1 2.92 3131 100.0 62000 10367 1.102 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 90.7 46.2 2.99 3130 100.0 62000 10481 1.131 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 90.7 46.2 2.99 3130 100.0 62000 10481 1.131 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N160 108.3 52.3 3.39 3128 97.4 62000 11197 1.106 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 92.8 46.2 3.00 3126 100.0 62000 10401 1.131 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 90.1 46.8 3.04 3125 100.0 62000 10614 1.116 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 95.3 47.1 3.05 3123 99.1 62000 10991 1.115 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 95.3 47.1 3.05 3123 99.1 62000 10991 1.115 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 92.3 47.1 3.05 3122 99.1 62000 10984 1.115 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 92.9 45.8 2.97 3121 100.0 62000 10409 1.124 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S065 96.4 47.5 3.08 3121 99.9 62000 10782 1.121 ! Near Maximum ! Norma MRP 2 110.0 55.4 3.59 3119 96.2 52138 12692 1.190 Bofors RP30 110.0 55.4 3.59 3119 96.2 52138 12692 1.190 Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 94.1 47.1 3.05 3114 99.9 62000 10576 1.105 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 91.7 44.8 2.90 3114 100.0 62000 10379 1.105 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 92.0 44.8 2.90 3114 100.0 62000 10379 1.105 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S361 100.3 53.8 3.49 3110 96.7 62000 11151 1.115 ! Near Maximum ! | |||
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