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I found a Savage 110 with a laminated stock in .270 Win recently. It came with a Weatherby Premium 3x9x44 scope. $250.00 out the door was too good to pass up. I have never loaded for .270. Will it use the same powders as a 30-06? I have some H 4350 for my Swede and Swiss rifles, and IMR 4895 (for my Garand). I also fell into this: Approximately 2 full boxes of Sierra 150 gr. Spitzer boattails 100 Speer 170 gr. round nose 82 Nosler 130 gr. Partitions 56 Sierra 130 gr. Spitzer flat base $50.00. I think the Savage has a 1 in 9.5" twist rate. What bullet weights would work in this rifle? What powders does the .270 like? I bought a box of Winchester Super-X with 130gr bullets just to see if it actually had a firing pin, and I wasn't real impressed with the accuracy but I was in a little hurry. I will try again later when I have more time. I am used to my AR15, which is scary accurate, and my Swiss K31 and Swede M38. Both of those are very very accurate. How accurate is this .270? Do I need to do something to help the Savage- bedding or something? Thanks, Jim NRA Life Member | ||
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The tried and true load for the .270 is 60 grain of H-4831 under a 130 grain bullet. as for the other powders I thinH-4350 should be good, have a look at the hogden web site ! ...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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The Jack O'Connor "classic" load for the 270 is the H4831. Alot of people still think it was made for the 270. I tend to agree. I use the 4831 for 150 grain bullets, especially Partitions. For 130 grainers, my gun prefers H4350. | |||
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Any of the 4895 powders are too fast burning for optimum results in the .270 Winchester. IMR or H4350 are probably not optimum for the .270, but they frequently give excellent accuracy in it, with some sacrifice in top velocity. In my opinion, Alliant Reloader 22 may be the best powder available nowadays for the .270 and bullets from 130 to 150 grains. The H4831 that O'Connor used was an older slower-burning version of 4831 that is no longer available. Today's H4831 is faster burning than that old stuff, so O'Connor's loads, if made with present-day H4831, will produce loads that are very hot, often unsafely so. Some .270s give better accuracy with 150 grain than 130 grain bullets. You can try both, and also 140 grain ones, to see which works best in your rifle. "How's that whole 'hopey-changey' thing working out for ya?" | |||
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H4350 works really well in the 270 so since you have it use it. | |||
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I use IMR-4350 in my Savage with the Speer 130-grain SP and like it. The Speer book shows max at 55 grains with Winchester cases and CCI 200 primers, that's my load! | |||
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H4831 is "the" powder in 270 win. R22 is darn good as well. Good Luck Reloader | |||
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pepper: I've had the best luck with Rldr-22 and a 150 gr. Partition. I only use 150 gr. bullets however. 56-57 grs. of Rldr-22. Also, IMR-7828 has shown promise as well with the 150 Partition I found 58 grs. to be max for that powder. It gave me 2950 fps and about 1.25" groups. That load might want more work. I can easily get 1" or slightly less with 56-57 grs. of Rldr-22. BTW, once you find a load that looks good, you might consider trying a Lee factory crimp die. I've played with this on my .270 loads some and the results look promising. I'm aware that most guys don't crimp but I've tried it only a couple of times and results look promising. Something ya might wanna consider later on. Hope this helps some. Later, Bear in Fairbanks Unless you're the lead dog, the scenery never changes. I never thought that I'd live to see a President worse than Jimmy Carter. Well, I have. Gun control means using two hands. | |||
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H-4831 is the old standard for 270, it works almost as well in 270's as it did in the 16" Naval Cannon's it was made for. The new H-4831 is a little warmer but it's also probably more temp stable, can be had in a Smaller grained version (H-4831SC) and is still a great 270 Winchester powder. I usually use RL-22.......................DJ ....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!.................. | |||
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H4831 RL22 VV N160 All excellent. May favourite load just now is a 140gr Accubond over 53.5gr N160. Quite a mild load but very accurate. I am guessing velocity is 2800-2850 in a 24" barrel. Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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My. .270 shoots extremely well with 130, 140 and 150 grain bullets over IMR 4831. It also did very well with some 140gr. bullet/W760 loads. Good shooting, desmobob | |||
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I have loaded more for the .270WSM than the older .270 Win., but the powders you have on hand will work. A friend of mine who used to live next door to me loaded his .270 Win. with IMR-4895 and the Sierra 150 gr Spitzers. Apparently the deer he killed with that load didn't realize the powder he was using wasn't optimal for the cartridge. It would probably provide a little less recoil (and velocity) than a heavier charge of a slower burning powder like H-4831. My advice is to grab a reloading manual or two, or check manufacturer's data on the internet for the bullets you want to try and load some up. If you or a friend has access to a chronograph, it would let you know if you are achieving the velocity you desire. It can be a little sobering to work up an accurate load, only to find out it chronographs 300 or 400 fps slower than you thought it would. Still doesn't mean it can't do the job, just may suggest you get a little closer. The H-4350 should work well, and provide higher velocity. If neither works acceptably well, the other posts suggesting you try H-4831, Reloder 22 or even another 4350 are reasonable. Other powders that should do well with the .270 Win are IMR-4831, Accurate 3100, Vihtavuori N-160 and N-165, and Ramshot Magnum. Bullets are pretty worthless. All they do is hang around waiting to get loaded. | |||
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I know I'm a little late to this party, but I went to the range yesterday with my new Browning A-bolt .270 to fire some test loads. I had loads of varying weights using various powders (H4831, IMR 4895, RL22) behind a 130 gr. Nosler accubond bullet. The RL22 gave the best results (5 shot group just over .75in in diameter). The IMR4895 also gave a good group, but not as tight as the RL22. The new pet load for this gun is 58 gr of RL22 and the aforementioned 130gr Nosler accubond. | |||
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I have been having good results with H 4350, H 4831, and RL 22. | |||
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Don't over look H-1000 in the 270 Win...H-1000 works very well......  _____________________________________________________ A 9mm may expand to a larger diameter, but a 45 ain't going to shrink Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. - Winston Churchill | |||
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50 gr H322, 130 gr, stock 22" Howa barrel, 3044 fps threshold of trouble 49 gr H322, 130 gr 22" Pac nor Barrel M70 3056 fps threshold of trouble 51.3 gr H322, 130 gr , Stock Ruger 26" barrel, no trouble | |||
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Not to disagree with Lloyd Ebby, as I find he knows his stuff... however, powders like IMR 4895, RL 15, IMR 4064, IMR 3031 are NOT too fast for "optimal performance" in a 270.... Granted you will give up 100 fps in Max Velocity potential with a 130 grainer, but for the 100 fps MV you give up, you also are using about 10 grains less powder... and frequently you will notice tighter groups with the lower velocity.. even with the slower powders... a click or two on the scope elevation knob will compensate for that 100 fps MV you gave up.. while I have pumped the 270 up to 270 Weatherby factory velocity figures ( over pressured of course).. I have seen no loss when compared to the penetration ability at 100 and 200 yds, of either the 270 Weatherby velocity potential or the 2800 fps velocity with a 130 grainer using 4895 or 4064 or RL 15.... I did notice a difference in recoil... and a difference in brass life tho... for some reason people feel the need to redline the 270's velocity...I for one, don't.... I only "pump up the volume" when I am loading it with the 160 grain SMP Partition, with an MV of about 2950 fps... but at that time, I am loading it for much heavier game than the average blacktail or whitetail... And I load that just because I prefer the SMP design that many more partitions use to have.. I think it opens up better on game, and I also am a real believer in the penetration ability of the SMP design and high sectional density... wouldn't I love to see a 130 and 140 SMP partition in 6.5 mm... Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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One of the things I learned from Seafire was to try a faster powder. Less noise, less recoil, less trouble metering, less money, and the option of putting in more powder. Load books with their dumbed down loads mostly focus on all very slow powders. They leave out many good options. Only on the AR forum is it common to be advanced enough to make up your own loads. | |||
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I've been working for several weekends on 270 loads using H4831, H4350, and Reloader 22. H4350 was OK, but I worked a ladder from 56-60.4 grains of R-22 and all I can say is Wow! Two confirmation groups with the best load show excellent results. Just today I put 5 shots in .71 inches with 60 grains of R-22 behind 130 grain Interlock SP bullets. Velocities were 3188, 3169, 3163, 3169, and 3158. I'm liking this powder. | |||
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I have been using IMR 4350 in my 270 rem mountain rifle with good results under a sierra 140 gr bullet, but I am getting ready to load some 130 gr with H 4831 to try it. | |||
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I have found excellent hunting loads in the 270 with all of the following powders with little effort: Re22, 19 IMR 4064, 4350, 4831 H4350, 4831, 1000 I do not know why AA3100 is so rarely mentioned or perhaps even used, but it has produced several excellent and consistent loads in my 270s, 300 WM, and 7mm Rem Mag. It is typically a cheaper powder than most also. If I had to pick only a couple of powders for the 270 in all bullet weights, they would be Re22 and H4831SC. Don't dismiss IMR4350. For accuracy, it is hard to beat, so long as you're not worried about 90-120 fps loss. The animals sure can't tell. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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I have some H4350 that I bought for my 7.5x55 Swiss, so that will be the first I try. If I get good results with it I'll post here. Thanks, Jim NRA Life Member | |||
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get good accuracy from imr 4350 51 grains with 140gr SST (hornady), winchester brass and WLR primer... Older Ruger M77 --- | |||
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I took (3) .270's to the range today and shot: 1) 140 gr Accubonds with moly and 55.3 gr of IMR4350. The 26" barrel was getting 3086~3108 fps The 22" barrels were getting 2956~3079 fps 2) 130 gr Rem SP moly and 58 gr IMR4350 The 26" barrel was getting 3205~3259 fps The 22" barrels were getting 3134~3189 fps I fired all 66 rounds with no pressure sign on the brass. I had no recoil pads, and I was starting to feel it. My shoulder had a pressure sign. | |||
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What accuracy did you get with which load? Jim NRA Life Member | |||
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Lousy But that is not the fault of the loads, the problem is me and the guns. I could not wait for the barrels to cool down. I am spoiled by bull barrels shooting 33 gr bullets into a half inch without the barrel getting hot. Today's range report:
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