Well my friend ordered those Ginex primers, loaded 12 rounds and out of the 12 we had 2 that we had to shoot twice to ignite and one misfire. I had my doubts on these primers. I did not like how they seated, they seated kind of hard, LIKE Federal and CCI'S THEY SEAT SMOOTH. I know I would think twice before I would buy this product.

I did another 9 reloads with a different rifle(270 savage) The accuracy was still there with these Ginex primers but I had just one misfire this time. I do not think I would trust these primers on a Hunt.

I have load hundreds of thousands of rounds.

Primers from all the major manufacturers of the US and Europe.

I honestly cannot remember, ever, getting a bad one.

Your results are totally unacceptable.

Mr. Saeed I did not recall you was there at the rifle range the last two times. That I and my Hunting friend and his Grandson was trying out these primers. If you were there you would have noticed the the problem. Because GOD see's all

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Originally posted by 300 win:
Mr. Saeed I did not recall you was there at the rifle range the last two times. That I and my Hunting friend and his Grandson was trying out these primers. If you were there you would have noticed the the problem. Because GOD see's all

I think you misunderstood my answer.

I have never used these primers.

But others.

And from your experience, I would not touch them at all.

That's a good Heads-up.
Sounds like I'll personally be avoiding those primers. Never seen them before so maybe I don't need to worry about them.

I also have loaded and fired hundreds of thousands of rounds and I cannot think of one that didn't fire.

Zeke

I found this primer "malfunction":

Never ever had any problem with CCI, Federal, Sellier & Bellot, whatever pistol, rifle, rifle magnum...

Only Sellier-Bellot primers loaded for .500 S&W revolver had occasionally malfunction. Until this moment, I seated primers in Forster press, not hand or any other dedicated primer seating tool. So I found those primers just a little bit harder, so I started to seat them for 500 S&W by RCBS hand tool all the way down to primer pocket. Since that moment, I had never ever more malfunction. In all my rifles, those primers worked well regardless of seating technique. Just revolver is a little bit weaker hitter or so . . .

Jiri

Online reviews speak well of the Bosnian manufactured Ginex primers, some finding the ES lower than some of the mainstream brands and giving better accuracy. All comment that they are a little harder to seat than other some other brands especially in new cases but have the advantage of extending case life when primer pockets loosen up a bit. Some find best to use the press ram for seating these primers rather than specific hand priming tools. No-one mentions any issues with misfires.

I personally only ever use my press for priming and prime solidly all brands, boxer and berdan, to sensitize the primers.
I have found CCI 250 Magnum primers are quite tight in new or newish RWS 404 cases and when fully seated they are quite flattened. I don't have misfires in any cartridges I reload.

Jiri, there are horror stories about any product. I personally had a problem with Federal primers after the Obama election + primers were unavailable. My dealer found me some Federals that I bought + had multiple ignition failures. My wholesaler told me at the time that due to scare buying + shortage after the election, that federal (MOST LIKELY) outsourced them from China with no quality control. That's one helluva a problem to have when you are loading with a Dillon 650 progressive. Don't know you have a problem until you have already loaded 600 rounds.

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300 win
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posted 06 September 2022 17:43Hide Post
Mr. Saeed I did not recall you was there at the rifle range the last two times. That I and my Hunting friend and his Grandson was trying out these primers. If you were there you would have noticed the the problem. Because GOD see's all

I have had 2 miss fires in my reloading years. not bad primers, but bad firing pins

I brought 1000 Herters primers in a estate sale years ago. Came in a lot of reloading stuff.

Have no clue other then they were small pistol primers.

Had 100 percent misfires with the first hundred I loaded. Didn't try the rest.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
I brought 1000 Herters primers in a estate sale years ago. Came in a lot of reloading stuff.

Have no clue other then they were small pistol primers.

Had 100 percent misfires with the first hundred I loaded. Didn't try the rest.

Are you sure boxer type primers?

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Originally posted by Jiri:

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
I brought 1000 Herters primers in a estate sale years ago. Came in a lot of reloading stuff.

Have no clue other then they were small pistol primers.

Had 100 percent misfires with the first hundred I loaded. Didn't try the rest.

Are you sure boxer type primers?

It has been 40 plus years My memory does not recall.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:

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Originally posted by Jiri:

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
I brought 1000 Herters primers in a estate sale years ago. Came in a lot of reloading stuff.

Have no clue other then they were small pistol primers.

Had 100 percent misfires with the first hundred I loaded. Didn't try the rest.

Are you sure boxer type primers?

It has been 40 plus years My memory does not recall.

Pretty good bet you were loading Berdan primers into Boxer brass (Herters did make Berdan primers) and of course without an anvil in the primers or Boxer brass you were guaranteed to get a 100% misfire rate

I always thought the diameters of berdan and boxer primers was different enough to be unmistakable. But some time ago I heard about that here too so it is the reason I asked. I have no personal experience with berdan primers at all.

So is it really possible to load berdan primer in boxer pocket? What are diameters of current and past berdan primers?

Jiri

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
I brought 1000 Herters primers in a estate sale years ago. Came in a lot of reloading stuff.

Have no clue other then they were small pistol primers.

Had 100 percent misfires with the first hundred I loaded. Didn't try the rest.

That is understandable!

Herter never sold anything that worked!

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Pretty good bet you were loading Berdan primers into Boxer brass (Herters did make Berdan primers) and of course without an anvil in the primers or Boxer brass you were guaranteed to get a 100% misfire rate

Nope just went and looked at what was left, boxer primers with anvil.

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:

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Pretty good bet you were loading Berdan primers into Boxer brass (Herters did make Berdan primers) and of course without an anvil in the primers or Boxer brass you were guaranteed to get a 100% misfire rate

Nope just went and looked at what was left, boxer primers with anvil.

Well must have just left out the priming compound

You're not pulling the trigger hard enough!

Hip

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Originally posted by Hipshoot:
You're not pulling the trigger hard enough!

Obviously this

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Originally posted by Jiri:
I always thought the diameters of berdan and boxer primers was different enough to be unmistakable. But some time ago I heard about that here too so it is the reason I asked. I have no personal experience with berdan primers at all.

So is it really possible to load berdan primer in boxer pocket? What are diameters of current and past berdan primers?

Jiri

Some small pistol Berdan primers are .177" while small pistol and small rifle Boxer primers are .175" diameter, close enough that small pistol Berdan primers would most likely seat into Boxer primer pockets.

Not so with large rifle primers, the closest to Boxer LR/LP primers at .210" is the .217" Berdan primer, .007" being too much of a difference in diameter for any interchangeability.

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Originally posted by a.tinkerer:

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Originally posted by Hipshoot:
You're not pulling the trigger hard enough!

Obviously this

Hit one with a hammer on a hard surface, that will tell you if they should fire if seated correctly and hit hard enough with the firing pin

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eagle27
posted 20 September 2022 17:09

Hit one with a hammer on a hard surface, that will tell you if they should fire if seated correctly and hit hard enough with the firing pin

Put on your safety specs first !
I've done this with lots of primers, mainly to dispose of dinged, unwanted primers that I didn't want to discard in live state. I've foolishly whacked 'em without specs but last time had something of a premonition so found the safety specs first. Got a couple of hot metal bits to the cheeks when the primer exploded !