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What is powder capacity of 8x68?
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It's not in my reloading manuals.

 
Posts: 7627 | Location: near Austin, Texas, USA | Registered: 15 December 2000Reply With Quote
<Bill Tompkins>
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LDO,

Quickload says that it is 86 grains of total capacity.

Bill

 
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Kinda depends on the powder!
 
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LDO __

Bill Tompkins is correct. 86 gr. of water converts to 0.34 cu. in. total (empty) case capacity. With a 170 gr. bullet seated to one diameter (0.323 in.), the case volume available for gunpowder becomes 0.32 cu. in. If you use a recommended gunpowder like IMR 4350, with a Bulk Density of 225 gr./ cu. in., 72.0 gr. will result in 100% Fill.

This is backed-up by the Hornady manual which show that 72.1 gr. of IMR 4350 behind a 170 gr. JSP-RN bullet gets 3100 fps muzzle velocity from a 28 in. barrel. To be safe, always start with a charge weight of gunpowder below that value.

You can also use the ballistics data for the 8 mm Remington Magnum; both cases being nearly alike. However, the 8 x 57 mm case is slightly smaller by about one grain weight (of gunpowder) capacity.

Good shooting.

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80 grains of Norma MRM wil fill the case flush with the base of the neck.
no drop tube, just pouring it slowly with a regular powder funnel.
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The 8x68S is a much "fatter" case than the regular H&H Mag. Length is 68 mm versus 72 mm in the Mags. With long sloping shoulder like .300 HH the x68 case has more capacity. With "improved" mags it should be about even.

I�m still looking for reloading data. I know no data that will reach factory ballistics. I contacted Lapua/Vihtavuori abou that, stating that I think VV N 560 should be a top powder. They sent me the following:

"Sorry that my reeply took such long time, but here is N560 starting charges
for bullets you mentioned:

200 grs Nosler Partition COL = 86.5 mm

N560 starting charge 4.45 g

220 grs Nosler Partition COL = 86.5 mm

N560 starting charge 4.30 g

Have you ever tested Swift 220 grs A-Frame? This one might work well with
the 8x68S, which requires strong bullets."

I hope they send me the top loads with velocities as well. g/ 0,0648 should get You grains.

Good shooting! H

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Hi Long Distance,
125 gr.IMR 4350 76 gr 3500 ft/p.sec.
150 gr.IMR 4350 74 gr 3280
181 gr. H 4831 SC 78 gr 3100
220 gr.RE-22 74 gr 2875
Hope it helps!That is max.load in my gun.
Waidmanheil!
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Thanks guys. I don't have an 8x68; I was thinking about it for 1,000yard benchrest. I thought that it had more capacity than the .375 H&H, but they look about the same.

My thoughts were for a wildcat launching a 6.5 or .30 bullet. I know of one guy who wants to try 8mm for 1kBR though. Sounds interesting.

Thanks again, Lee

 
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LDO,

You would be right in there kicking and screaming with some of the best today. Some are using the 6.5 x 68 and a couple are using the .30 Boo Boo which is the 6.5 x 68 necked up to .30 caliber. I have one of each started for next year just to see what they can do.

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LDO,
Apparently a gunsmith by the name of Tooley from Australia has a set of cartridges called the BoBo ie 6.5 BoBo, 7mm BoBo, that are based on the 8X68 cartridge and they are doing well in the 1000Yd game. The cases are RWS and of extremely high quality which leads to this cartridges success.
 
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tsiero-

David Tooley is from the USA, in North Carolina. he calls those the BooBoo line. (can you think of a better companion for the Yogi line?)

I've heard of them, but what I'm thinking of is a cut-down .264 bullet launcher. A bigger PPC, if you will. Not new ground, just scaling up slightly.

I like the idea of using the 8x68. A big case without a belt that will work in a Remington 700.

 
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I intend to get a 8x68S sometime, perhaps on a Win 70 CRF.

I seem to have missed something: why would somebody make a 6.5 wildcat based on the 8x68S?? There is something like a 6.5x68 already there. You may get brass from RWS or Hirtenberg.

This is a cartridge for Chamois hunting. My father has a Steyr in that caliber and I personally have taken some with it. I never fired it for groups, factory ammo is much too expensive, but the sighters were all in the same place, and effect on game was awesom. Xept on too large game: the 6.5x68 I would not recommend for Red deer.

Good shooting and thanx for the loading data! H

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
It's not in my reloading manuals.



LDO,

Whilst "playing" with Quickload I measured case capacities of some actual cases. For a RWS 8x68S case, 67.5 mm/2.65" long the case volume was 87.9 grains of water.

Guus

 
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Originally posted by aHunter:

.....I seem to have missed something: why would somebody make a 6.5 wildcat based on the 8x68S?? There is something like a 6.5x68 already there. ........



I think the answer may be we Yanks can't resist "improving" factory rounds. In America, wildcatting is almost as cheap as a custom barrel in a factory chambering. There are no stringent government regulations or tests.

Thinking about it, It seems that either round could be good for 1,000yard benchrest. There are 8mm Match Kings available in Europe......

hmmmmmmmmmmmm......

 
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LDO,

I guess that my post above was not clear enough. There are already competitors in the 1000 yard venue shooting the 6.5x68 and the 8x68 cartridges. Dave Tooley even came up with a series of wildcats based on this case and named it Boo Boo, one of which is very popular, 30 Boo Boo being used at 1000 yard benchrest competitions. It is currently winning it's share of matches.

Bill

 
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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
I've heard of them, but what I'm thinking of is a cut-down .264 bullet launcher. A bigger PPC, if you will. Not new ground, just scaling up slightly.

hi lee,
contact michael u., he's working on this exact plan!


mfg,

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I talked with Michael on the telephone and he told me about it. I didn't want to mention it here.

I'll build a 1kBR rifle with that cartridge. Maybe a Heavy Gun.

Have you seen the rifles used at Williamsport? I'm going on the first weekend of November. It's not a registered match, so I will have plenty of time for photos. You should go next year's World Open in July with Michael.

How is your 8.5 Reb (?) doing?

 
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<bump> for Wildcat Junkie

With Sierra now offering a Matchking in 8mm, what do y'all think of 8x68 for long-range?
(Target shooting. I have no experience hunting, let alone at long range)

[This message has been edited by LongDistanceOperator (edited 02-10-2002).]

 
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