I am having trouble with small rifle 400 primers had 5 yesterday from 2 guns , using a rcbs strip hand primer putting a lot of pressure when I put them in case.I am with in CCI specs 2 to 3 thousands recessed below the case .
I tangled with CCI of course its my fault will any one ever say lets work together with out the neg, attitude.
Need some 17 Remington loads Please.

Were they hangfires or fail to fires?

How far it is recessed below the head of the case means nothing. The face(??) of the primer must be pressed firmly against the bottem of the primer pocket.

It may be wise to use a primer pocket uniformer to make sure they are all the same depth. I have recently started to use them and it made a difference to me. Quality control of brass manufacturers is a hit/miss issue. I recently had a whole 100 pc. lot of W-W 375 H&H brass that had very shallow primer pockets. The primers were seated hard and still protruded from the case head .007 which is certainly not acceptable. Get a uniformer and take the time to do it right.

Woodrow:
Good idea.

Never had that problem, very very few ever misfire, or hangfire and I use ONLY CCI's by the case. Somewhere around 25,000 a yr for many yrs.
Only hangfire/misfire's I've had much of is b/p and blame that on the weakening springs on my CVA. Replaced it several times and within 50 shots it's back to the same old troubles. Enough so I won't use it to hunt with and would otherwise. They've sent me several replacements and they all end up the same way before a match is over. They blame the nipple, and that's not the problem.

Irritating as hell ain't it?

Just a thought, any chance they were exposed to any kind of spray, over spray or mist??? Do you spray lube your cases? It don't take much to affect primers a little bit.
Figure it out and let us know, might save someone else the same headache.

George

Bill, The feel of seating the primer is more important than the dimension achieved by the process. Not that a below the case head isn't a very desirable thing, but the uniformers do have a place on my bench. As to loads for the .17 Rem, try IMR 4320 powder and race to the moon for velocities and sub MOA accuracy.

The only hangfires i've ever had were with CCI primers. Maybe you should buy 100 from another manufacterer and see if you have the same problem.

The only primers I use are Winchester, except for some CCI Large Pistol primers once, and have never had a hangfire or a misfire.

Had 10% "no-fires" from some Rem 9 1/2 primers.
Put 'em in 30 weight oil waste and have never touched Remingtons again. Not sure how you make $$ manufacturing primers. One batch of bad product, which is a minor expense yet major pain to undo, and you can't sell any more. QC must have to be so tight.

BNagel

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Originally posted by BNagel:
Had 10% "no-fires" from some Rem 9 1/2 primers.
Put 'em in 30 weight oil waste and have never touched Remingtons again. Not sure how you make $$ manufacturing primers. One batch of bad product, which is a minor expense yet major pain to undo, and you can't sell any more. QC must have to be so tight. BNagel

Been reloading CF cartridges since 1954. Have never had a primer fail except a few that I discovered had been contaminated by oil before they were used....... This was way back when the ONLY primers available to handloaders were those marketed by Remington & Winchester.