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I am new to reloading and have a question that I am sure you guys can help me with. I was given some brass that is already primed and appears to be ready to charge but I wish to deprime it so that I can size it and put primers of a known origin in it and my question is what is the best way to deprime casings holding live primers. Is it safe to deprime them in my press or should I just run them through my rifle to pop the primers?
 
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run them through the gun.

or soak them in water before depriming
 
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Not the best to have to do. But you can carefully deprime live primers. Slow and steady are the words to go by. And wear safety glasses if you don't usually do.
Soaking primers is not as affective as many believe. Some one on this board did a test a year or two ago soaking primers in various solvents for varying times. Most solvents took days to deactivate the primers. Many several days.

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Although it is safest to fire them in the gun, I have deprimed hundreds of live primers without incident. However, wearing safety glasses is an appropriate precaution.

As muck indicates, I wouldn't depend on soaking primers to do much to them -- they are made to resist both moisture and oil. Besides, who wants that slop inside their cases?
 
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I usually deprime live primers in the press, going really slowly, they will just pop out. I wear glasses or turn away, used to wrap a towel around the press too. Good luck


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While it can be done, my question, with primers so hard to get right now, would be what is wrong with the primers in the brass you have. How many primed cases are we talking about??


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you can run them through the gun or shoot a little wd 40 into the case to kill the primer. i have been informed by several sources that oil would work better than water and have used it with success.

to be completely honest, you can probably simply decap them if you use a gentle touch. i've deprimed many live primers by "banning away" with the lee primer system on a lee loader, so i am sure a slow, gentle action of a press would be fine. with the other two options, howver, there is no real reason to do this.
 
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i would deprime them with a charge of powder and a bullet on top.
you might not know exactly what the primer is but you will have a bunch of all the same loads,and a batch of fire formed brass too.
 
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run them through the gun.

or soak them in water before depriming


Water doesn't do spit to primers.

Most solvents are questionable but IIRC Ethyl Chloride
does kill them. however finding ethyl chloride is going to be tricky considering that is a precurser for making Mustard gas and several organo-phosphate nerve agents.

basically "Deactivation" of primers is impractical.

I'd just gently deprime the cases with a Lee universal depriming die.

Or load a minim charge of a medium burning propellant for the cartridge and use it as an oppertunity to fireform the brass to your chamber.

Generally I don't trust used brass that someone has previously reloaded, you never know if it's been reloaded once or a dozen times.

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i would deprime them with a charge of powder and a bullet on top.
you might not know exactly what the primer is but you will have a bunch of all the same loads,and a batch of fire formed brass too.


Me too.....load them and shoot them worry about what kind of primer later. Dont waste those primers.


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I say load em and shoot em. If you want to size them to feel comfortable just remove the decapping pin from your die or back the assembly off enough so it will not deprime.
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The only thing I've found that will guarantee a dead primer is a firing pin.
 
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Thanks for all the ideas guys. I don't know which way I will go, but at least now I have several options.
 
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I live in town, and I have an old pair of Jeans that I put the muzzle into for a silencer when I get rid of old primers. I too have deprimed live primers, but I usually soak them in water for a couple days prior and still use glasses and other precautions. I hate doing it, so I will usually simply fire them through the rifle.
 
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In the 1970s, my brother went out with a girl with scars on her face from depriming live primers for her father.

The cup of primers caught fire and exploded.

She said that every few months an anvil would work it's way to the surface of her skin.

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I chucked up a case in a collet in the mill, and put a lathe bit in the vise. I was making a cut when the primer went off 12" from my face. I didn't know there was a primer in that case.
It was loud.
Scary loud.
 
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In the 1970s, my brother went out with a girl with scars on her face from depriming live primers for her father.

The cup of primers caught fire and exploded.
Scary loud.

Depriming live primers is reasonably safe if done slowly, wear safety glasses & don't have a cup of live primers around. Roll Eyes


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I've seen a Lee auto prime tray explode while the shooter was loading for a benchrest match in the 70's. lesson don't piss with them! shoot them!
 
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So I will toss in my two pennies....
I have knocked out many a live primer. When I do that little bugger gets tossed in a spray can cap of some sort with a little oil in it.

On the other hand, I have also not wasted a good reason to fire form a case or two!

If you feel comfortable, be cautious and knock them out....if not don't, fire form them.

You could, like others have stated, pop them off in the rifle.....just got to clean it when you're done so why not do it with a load!


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