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expander ball vs no expander
expander ball vs no expander
what, if any are the negative aspects of not using an expander ball during re sizing?
08 April 2015, 01:12
BNagelUnder sized neck. (Was that a trick question?)
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08 April 2015, 01:56
ramrod340Depending on the die set you might end up with a tight neck. I have a number of 3 die set (pistol and rifle) that uses a decapping pin then a mouth expander. No expander might reduce the amount you stretch the neck.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
08 April 2015, 01:58
RapidrobYou can do it. The neck brass needs to be strong though. The bullet being a little larger than the sized neck can cause the mouth to collapse as you seat the bullet.
I have done this in the past with very good results.
Just so you know, it does not stop neck stretch.
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08 April 2015, 02:09
arkypeteI don't use the expander ball on any of my bottle necked cartridges. I use the Lyman 'M' die to expand the case neck and put a small flare at the case mouth.
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08 April 2015, 02:12
ramrod340quote:
it does not stop neck stretch
Nope "reduce" can be a long distance from stop.

The majority of the neck lengthening comes from the brass needing to move someplace as it is resized. BT bullets normally feed just fine in a tight neck. Flat base might cause you an issue.
As usual just my $.02
Paul K
Thanks everybody, I think I will try the Lyman die.
09 April 2015, 19:16
ted thornMy die set for 30-06 imo over sizes the neck
I lapped out this area so the sizer ball does very little
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15 April 2015, 01:58
AtkinsonOn Dangerous game caliber bolt actions and double rifles I reduce the expander ball one to three thousands on a lath or drill press to get a very snug neck and use a powder that compacts lightly with a case full, and then use a light crimp..This method is easy on brass and cases last forever, and your bullets won't move forward from recoil..If you take the expander ball out and can still seat a bullet your chamber is probably overly large or at least sloppy at best. Using an expander on brass cases shortens case life with split necks.
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