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I am about to order a set of RCBS dies and a box of 180gr NPs. My primary concern is accuracy! I hunt whitetails and elk every year. Would you readers please suggest some powders (and grains) that you have found to be accurate in your rifles. I realize there are many great bullets out there, but I'd like to try to find an accurate/suitable load with the NPs first. I'd appreciate any responses. Thanks | ||
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My most accurate 180 grain load uses 60 gr of H4831SC - S40 Youth and vitality are wasted on the young. | |||
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I loaded for several 30-06's it seems with a 180 I always wind up with IMR 4350 as the best load. | |||
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H-414 is my current favorite but Re 22 is also a fine powder for that bullet /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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One of the 4350's. I have used all of them, and they are all good. I shoot very stout loads of 4350 with the bullet and get excellent velocity and performance. Kudude | |||
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used nothing but IMR 4350 and am content thus far. | |||
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IMR-4350 From 44.8 grains to 57.0 grains Winchester WLR Primer My best load was: Cartridge: .30-06 Springfield Bullet: Nosler 180 Grain Partition Powder: 55.0 grains of IMR-4350 Primer: Winchester 8-1/2 Case: Winchester Firearm: Ruger 77R Optics: Leupold 4x12AO Velocity: 2705 FPS @ 15' from muzzle Accuracy: <1" for 5 shots at 200 yards. My second choice was: IMR-4064 From 37.5 grains to 50.0 grains Winchester WLR Primer | |||
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I prefer Hogdon H4350 over IMR. 57.5 gr's gets it done with 180's. | |||
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i've had good luck with xmr 3100, 4831sc, and ramshot big game. "Earth First, we'll mine the other planets later" "Strip mining prevents forest fires" | |||
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H4831 gives me good accuracy w/ the 180 pills. Good Luck Reloader | |||
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I favor IMR-4350 or H-4350 in the .30-06 with bullet weights from 165 to 220. -Bob F. | |||
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I have the same question. I am just beginning to reload and still waiting on components to arrive in the brown truck. My first try will be a 180g NP load for my trusty 30-06. I don't have the Nosler manual in front of me right now, but its max load with 180 NP is 55 grain (maybe 56, running on memory) of H4350. Other manuals list 57.5 grain max of H4350 with "jacketed 180 grain" bullets. Some of recommendations I see here and elsewhere are over the Nosler manual limit. How do you guys approach this? I would hope to get 2700 fps or a little over with this bullet to match factory ammo. Do you inch over the Nosler manual limit with only primer visual appearance and bolt lift indications?? Is the NP a little "harder" like monometals? | |||
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My load came out of Hornady Volume II that I've used for years with no promblem. 180 Gr. bullet 56.0 Gr of IMR 4350 MV + or - 2800 fps out of a 24" barrel. | |||
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The Nosler manual is good toilet-side-reading but little else. I never use loading data from a manual that doesn't give pressure data. Hodgdon's does and they list 57.5 H4350 with 180's at reasonable pressure. My rifle agrees with their max data precisely. I've found the NP to be like every other "cup bullet" pressure-wise and not at all like a "hard bullet" to use your phrase. With 57.5 gr's H4350 I get 2,745 with the 180 NP from my 21" barrel. | |||
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Ditto on the H414 on this end with Hornady plain jane 180's have only fooled around with it a bit but it looks to be a very promising combination with some tweeking. | |||
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dont under estimate the 200gn nosler at 2659-2700 fps ..it is a underrated load...it is a top proj in any o6 for any game try reloader 22 start low and work your way up till you get to 2850 fps you will be about the 63, 000 psi mark ...24 inch barrel h 4350 work your way up till you hit 2810 and you are at a psi of around the 63,000 psi also daniel | |||
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I use this exact load as well and I've been very pleased with the velocity and accuracy. | |||
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IMR 4350 or RE 19....... "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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I like Re25 with 180 bullets in my 30-06 AI (a mildly improved 30-06). I use Lapua brass with 70 grs. Re25 with 180 NBTs or Accubonds or NPTs - getting 3075 fps with a 26" barrel (Oehler 35 chronograph). Primer pockets remain firm and QL predicts ~65,000 PSI. One should be able to get (tap/pack) ~66 grs of Re25 in a standard 30-06 Lapua case and achieve ~2950 fps in a 24" barreled gun and still be ~65,000 PSI. | |||
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You men are a wealth of information! Thanks so much for the responses. If you have additional suggestions, I'll gladly take em'. Thanks again | |||
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All of the powders thus far recommended are reasonable choices (however, 4064 will work but is too fast for optimum velocities). To add one to the mix, I loaded 58 grains of Vhita N-160 under a 180 partition (2750 fps) that my son killed a Colorado bull with last October. | |||
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I read this one just to see what the overall opinion was on the old workhorse. In 1965, I loaded 57 grs. IMR-4350 with a 190 gr. Sierra Matchking and placed in the Winbleton Cup at Camp Perry that year. It would always shoot sub-minute of angle with that load. Good to see that most of you find the "4350's" the powder of choice. "I ask, sir, what is the Militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them" - George Mason, co-author of the Second Amendment during the Virginia convention to ratify the Constitution | |||
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I've had excellent results with a 180 bullet with ALL of the following: IMR 4064 (in my rifles, hard to beat for accuracy) IMR4350---old reliable and always a top choice H4350 ---a favorite. Re22---another favorite Re19 never had a problem finding sub MOA with this one either. and finally the very first powder I ever used in the .06, H414, with excellent velocity. Seems like AA3100 was good too years ago with the Speer bullet. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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I've often said, if you have a 30-06 and it will not shoot small groups using 4350, sell the rifle and avoid a lot of hassle. | |||
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