I am about to make and order and was wondering

Do I "need" a primer pocket uniformer and flash hole uniformer?

Do I "need" a micrometer adjustment for my powder measure?

I will be loading hunting loads for 30-06 and 9.3*62. I do not want more stuff I dont need, but I want accurate loads.

I am ordering forster co-ax press, case trimmer, powder trickler, one shot case lube, RCBS hand primer, ammo boxes, 200 nosler partitions 1/2 protected points 1/2 spitzers, winchester brass, winchester primers.

Am I missing anything?

TIA, John

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Do I "need" a primer pocket uniformer and flash hole uniformer?

Do I "need" a micrometer adjustment for my powder measure?

No, you don`t need these to load good accurate hunting ammo. You likely will want them in the future as you progress with your new hobby though.
I would add a caliper to your list if you don`t have one, a deburr tool, and a cases block.

I don't hink you need them. Those tools are good if loading benchrest quality rounds, but not 30-06 for hunting. Why make extra work for yourself?

Good luck,
Kory

If you are loading for a typical hunting rifle my answers would be
no - yes - no

for standard hunting ammo a primer pocket uniformer will serve no real purpose and is a waste of time and money.

I think cleaning up flash holes is a good thing particularly if you are using new brass. Some new brass has some nasty burrs inside. Unlike primer pockets that tend to be very uniform anyway.

Micrometer adjustable powder measure is a solution to a non existing problem and serves "no purpose" whatso ever. You still have to set it up using a scale...so it saves no time there. You still have to weigh most coarse grain powders anyway....serves no purpose there. It may be repeatable but hardly worth much to me......

Buy more bullets, powder, primers and time on the range with the money.

Ropes,

What do you call accurate loads? If loads that will print between 1/2" and 1" are good enough, you could go with an RCBS Rockchucker press or even cheaper, the latest Lee Cast Classic. If you were intending to get into the world of bench rest or long range varminting, then I would consider the Forester...These guys want loads that are consistantly sub 1/2" but they have the rifles, scopes & technique ect to realize those loads...

What powder despenser are you going with?

I have an RCBS with the micrometer adjustment and I find I am using it less and less.

Some powders simply don't meter well. I tend to weigh every charge I use any way, so I find I am using simple Lee scoops more and more. I find a large one that throws just under the charge I want, and then use a small one to top it up on the scales pan..I would not like to do high volume reloading that way but if you are only doing 50 to 100 rounds in a session I find it ok..

I use a primer pocket uniformer and think thats worth while, and while I do use a flashhole deburrer I am not convinced I need to..Mind you I use Lapua brass, which is very good quality..I f I can't get Lapua then I choose Federal..I won't use Winchester as I have had problems with it in the past..

What about things like scales and calipers? Some sort of bullet comparator?

Regards,

Pete

I load a number of calibers including the 30-06 and 9,3x62. Very nice choices for a wide variety of game!

I agree with the first reply ... no primer pocket uniformer or micro adjustable powder measure.

I do suggest a deburring tool and a caliper ... and you'll find the caliper is useful making knives.

Eventually you'll need something to clean cases with ... like a tumbler. That also has some uses in knife making.

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Originally posted by Ropes:
I am about to make and order and was wondering

Do I "need" a primer pocket uniformer and flash hole uniformer?

Do I "need" a micrometer adjustment for my powder measure?

I will be loading hunting loads for 30-06 and 9.3*62. I do not want more stuff I dont need, but I want accurate loads.

I am ordering forster co-ax press, case trimmer, powder trickler, one shot case lube, RCBS hand primer, ammo boxes, 200 nosler partitions 1/2 protected points 1/2 spitzers, winchester brass, winchester primers.

Am I missing anything?

TIA, John

Yep, you need:
A scale.
The Nosler reloading manual and you can download the powder company's load data off of the net.
Dies for the 30.06 and the 9.3
small funnel for pouring from and to the scale.
Loading blocks

I was going to buy the redding BR3 powder measure, but since the micromeer adjust is not needed I will get the RCBS.

I have calipers and a RCBS 5-0-5 scale that I bought for loading shotshells.

Will add the manual, blocks, dies, funnel and
deburring tool.

Thanks for the advice ;o)

Robes,

I'm not trying to get you to spend more money ...

But it you can afford the Lyman DPS-1200 electronic dispenser, I highly recommend it. It dispenses every kind of powder I've tried with incredible accuracy. About 70% of the load are right on the money, and the other 30% is within +/- .1 grain. It is essential a high speed powder trickler coupled with a scale. It is the best reloading accesory I've purchased.

Kory

good info here, rather than the rcbs hand primer consider the bonnanza (forester) priming tool. It works well and like the press you don't have go out and buy shellholders all the time. Cost isn't that much more

Ropes, what dies are you planning to use?? In the Forster CoAx, the preferred die lock ring to use is either the Hornady or the Forster (in that order, probably). So if your dies use other lock rings, add enough (one per die) of the replacements to your shopping list.
- mike

I have some Hornady dies already ;o)

I will look for the bonanza/forster primer also..

Thank you all for your help, now I just need to find the best deals on all this stuff..

John

Used to uniform the flashholes of all my new cases inside and out. Can't say I noticed any difference in accuracy of my pet(hunting)loads.
Still do it with varmint loads...only because I'm perfectionist by nature.Powder tickler (?)gave mine away. Too slow, I find 1/4 tps measure much faster.
Things to get: Stuck case remover, nothing brings relaoding to a halt like a stuck case in a die. Stony point oal and headspace gagues. Ditto a good digital mic. A shooting chron, best $70 relaoding investment I ever made; no more guessing about safety of my loads.
Best luck.

Get the Redding BR 3 powder measure if it's not much $ differance. IMO it's a better measure (I currently use both) and you can get the small charge insert for loads under 10 grains.You may want to load pistol cartridges one day.

The Redding powder measure is about the best that is readily available. Most measures come with something akin to a "micrometer adjustment". You may be asking if you need the EXTRA micrometer adjustment for the Redding for pistol-size charges, and the answer is "no".

If you're into exotic religions, by all means deburr and uniform your primer pockets, preferably while chanting incantations.

You DO need a powder scale. It is impossible to set the powder measure without one. As recommended, get a hand held deburring tool to bevel the insides of the case necks, otherwise the sharp edge of the neck will likely shave copper from the bullet jacket as the bullet is seated.

While you can seat primers with your press, if you want a dedicated priming tool, the Lee hand held tool is cheap, impossible to beat, and while it will wear out in a few tens of thousands of primings, you'll never wear it out with hunting loads for just two guns.

Keep it simple. You don't need any automatic powder dispensers, progressive presses, bullet length comparators, or hydraulic butt wipers. With a relatively low volume of rifle shells for hunting purposes, you don't really need a powder measure in that you could weigh each of your charges on the scale.

Enjoy.

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Do I "need" a primer pocket uniformer and flash hole uniformer?

Do I "need" a micrometer adjustment for my powder measure?

No and maybe. I like the fine adjustment on powder measures for pistol loading...so you get more flexibility there. For hunting rifles I weigh each load so the powder dispenser isn't used...unless loading 50+ rounds (rare!). Think future use a bit, but it is waaaaay too easy to overbuy when getting started. Have fun!

Ropes, I'm relatively new to reloading too, having only done it for a little over a year now, but I've found consistent accuracy without those tools. (and I mean consistently less than 1") If you are planning on reloading for hunting and/or plinking only, I would suggest you hold on to your money now. Believe me, you'll find something new you want soon enough...

I didn't see a scale on your list, definatly need one of those

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Originally posted by Kory:
Robes,

I'm not trying to get you to spend more money ...

But it you can afford the Lyman DPS-1200 electronic dispenser, I highly recommend it. It dispenses every kind of powder I've tried with incredible accuracy. About 70% of the load are right on the money, and the other 30% is within +/- .1 grain. It is essential a high speed powder trickler coupled with a scale. It is the best reloading accesory I've purchased.

Kory

Ropes,

First off, sorry I about the typo in your name. Secondly, I was wrong -- you don't need the Lyman 1200 DPS. I confused this thread with another person asking about target shooting. For hunting, a scale with that kind of accuracy is an over kill.

Kory