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09 April 2008, 19:06
Strawman419
Reloading Manuals
Why don't bullet manufacturers just put load data on their website? I was thinking of trying the 200 grain .375 sierra bullet in a .375 Ruger, but I don't want to buy another reloading manual, and I am too new to start comparing other similar loads, I'm just not comfortable with that. Wouldn't it make sense to let people know how to use their products?


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09 April 2008, 19:51
ruger270
I have found that bullet makers will send out reloading data if requested. I would suggest sending Sierra a nicely worded email requesting load data.

Jesse
09 April 2008, 23:37
Tailgunner
Nosler puts NEW data (stuff they developed after the manual went to press) on their website
09 April 2008, 23:44
Stonecreek
Most of the propellant manufacturers put their data on their websites. It may or may not be for the exact bullet you want to use, but the variables inherent in the different chambers and barrels they use versus your particular gun's are usually greater than the variance between different bullets of the same weight and type. In the end, you must vet your own data through judicious trial regardless of where it originated.
11 April 2008, 00:29
fredj338
quote:
Originally posted by Stonecreek:
Most of the propellant manufacturers put their data on their websites. It may or may not be for the exact bullet you want to use, but the variables inherent in the different chambers and barrels they use versus your particular gun's are usually greater than the variance between different bullets of the same weight and type. In the end, you must vet your own data through judicious trial regardless of where it originated.


Unless the bulets are of castly diff. construction (ie monometals vs cup/core vs partitions). Regardless, you still need to work the loads up. thumb


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24 April 2008, 15:34
Rojovin
I have called Sierra and they have mailed me "tear sheets"with the bullet data. They are really great about their products. Call their tech service member, worth the time and the
call.
24 April 2008, 18:18
El Deguello
Why should they, when they can put it all together into a nice bound volume, and SELL it to you??

(The powder makers DO furnish some data on-line, however.......)


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24 April 2008, 18:52
DUK
Buy Quickload, that basically solves your problem. Use the online data and the print manuals to double check.
24 April 2008, 20:31
seafire2
Want a helpful web site,

this is maintained by a former AR member here...

I consult this site before I consult most of my reload manuals... Steve has done a lot of work cataloging all of this info from tons of sources...
http://stevespages.com/page8a.htm


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24 April 2008, 21:19
onefunzr2
quote:
Originally posted by seafire2:
this is maintained by a former AR member here...


Beg to differ, there seafire. Steve is not a former AR member. You can still search his posts and PM him from this forum. He is in just as good standing as you or I.

He just hasn't posted here for a year and a half since he started his own chatroom.
24 April 2008, 21:42
ricciardelli
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24 April 2008, 22:31
45-70 Govt.
Couple three factors to figure on bullets in a load workup:

Bullet weight

Bullet material (lead/copper jacket)

Bullet diameter (printed on the package)

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That's going to cover the load pressure issues. The rest of the ballistic details are all part of working up a load. Nice to have a chrono, but you can work up a load just by shooting groups off a bench.

Bullet mfg's SELL data manuals. There are some ballistic software options out there.

Before I'd trust any online load data that's not published on a MANUFACTURE'S site, I'd do some research and ensure that the load data is within the parameters of the data published on a MANUFACTURE'S site.

You get some nuts out there, some whacko wildcatters, some clueless types, probably more than one vandal, and there's the inevitable typos and transpositions.

Before I'd snug my mortal body up next to a load I'd found online, I'd check to ensure the data falls within the realm of published MANUFACTURE'S data. That data is accurate, safe, proven, and reliable.
25 April 2008, 03:42
tnekkcc
quote:
Originally posted by ricciardelli:
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25 April 2008, 06:04
Strawman419
I had seen some stuff with Quickload, has anyone else here used it and what did you think?


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25 April 2008, 07:53
alfsauve
I just recently bought a couple of the "Loadbooks USA" handbooks which are sold by caliber. Each one has the load data from the top 10+/- major manuals. (actually it looks like they physically copied the pages. I assume they have permission)
Sample:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=117533

If you're only interested in one caliber then it's pretty cheap ~$6USD. Once you go over 3 or 4 then buying a whole manual would be cheaper.

Alf