Hi,

I am looking for load information for a drilling with a rifle barrel chambered for 9.3x82r also known as a 360 Nimrod. The gun is not nitro proofed.

Thanks

This cartridge is listed and loads with available nitro propellants can be calculated with QuickLoad.

Sellier and Belliot manufactures a .364 193 grain bullet for the 9.3x72 R cartridge which originates also in the blackpowder age. Also H&N offers a lead bullet with the same parameters.

Cases are available from Horneber or though Reimer Johannsen Jagd.

Possibly someone here can give a hint regarding the best nitro substitute for blackpowder.

Duk,

Thanks. I do not have Quickload. I know where to get cases, dies and bullets.

If you indicate me a powder, I'll be happy to do the QL calculation for you. This should at least give you a good indication on pressure and speed to be expected.

The 4th Edition of Cartridges of the World has some info on the 9,3x82R

It shows a factory load with a 193gr bullet at 1640fps.

It also says to use 38-55 data when working up reloads.

Typo corrected, to 38-55.

The published loads by DEVA (German Ballistic Institute) for the 9.3x72 R are usually based on Vihta N140/N540, N550 but also mention one load with SR 4759.

Both cartridges are quite similar and were developed for blackpowder.

This is what QuickLoad comes up with, the pressure is below the maximum of 26000 PSI:

 Patrone            : 9.3 x 82 R (360)
Geschoss           : .366, 193 grain, SEB SPFN 2951
Patronenlänge L6   : 3.335 inch or 84.71 mm
Lauflänge          : 23.6 inch or 600.0 mm
Pulver             : Vihtavuori N140

Tabelle mit abgstuften Ladungen
in Stufen von 1,0% der eingegebenen Nennladung

Diff    Füll. Ladung    v0     E0     Pmax  Pmünd  Abbrand  D_Zeit
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10,0   69    37,80   1844    1457   17118   4229     81,2    1,751
-09,0   70    38,22   1863    1487   17516   4297     81,8    1,734
-08,0   70    38,64   1882    1518   17924   4366     82,3    1,717
-07,0   71    39,06   1901    1549   18341   4434     82,9    1,700
-06,0   72    39,48   1920    1580   18769   4503     83,5    1,683
-05,0   73    39,90   1939    1611   19206   4571     84,0    1,666
-04,0   73    40,32   1958    1643   19654   4639     84,5    1,649
-03,0   74    40,74   1977    1676   20112   4706     85,1    1,633
-02,0   75    41,16   1997    1708   20581   4774     85,6    1,617
-01,0   76    41,58   2016    1742   21061   4841     86,1    1,601
+00,0   76    42,00   2035    1775   21553   4908     86,6    1,585

 

quote:

Originally posted by DUK:
If you indicate me a powder, I'll be happy to do the QL calculation for you. This should at least give you a good indication on pressure and speed to be expected.

DUK, You are gentleman. Thanks for posting the load info. If you can. I would be interested in seeing IMR 3031 for this cartridge.

I ordered the dies from CH4D yesterday. Also the cases. Buffalo Arms has the 193 grain bullets.
http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,3889.html
http://www.ch4d.com/catalog/?p=35&page=&print=&search=9.3
http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=1&Cat...*652***670***9013***

I sent a chamber cast to Ace Dube. He is making a 22 Hornet insert with 6" barrel for me that will fit the 9.3x82r chamber.
http://www.mcace.com/shotguninserts.htm

So, this old drilling will be hunting again.

Thanks...

I found a load at the "Handloader´s Manual of Cartridge Conversition". For a 225grs Lead bullet befor 40grs of BL-C2 propellant.

Martin

I found some loading data for the 38-55 suitable for the Ballard, Stevens44, Tip Up actions, Colt Lightnings, and Marlin 1881's.

With a 243gr cast bullet they show 28.0gr of IMR 3031, velocity 1485fps.

For stronger actions, the Marlin 1893 and Winchester 1894 they show, with a 255 jacketed bullet:

32gr of IMR 3031 for 1696fps.
33gr of IMR 3031 for 1764 fps.
And
35gr BL-C2 for 1559fps.
37.5 gr BL-C2 for 1638fps.

Hope this helps.

quote:

Originally posted by 375 AI:
DUK, You are gentleman. Thanks for posting the load info. If you can. I would be interested in seeing IMR 3031 for this cartridge.

Here we go:

 Patrone            : 9.3 x 82 R (360)
Geschoss           : .366, 193, SEB SPFN 2951
Patronenlänge L6   : 3.335 inch or 84.71 mm
Lauflänge          : 23.6 inch or 600.0 mm
Pulver             : IMR 3031

Tabelle mit abgstuften Ladungen
in Stufen von 1,0% der eingegebenen Nennladung
V O R S I C H T: Maximal- und minimal zulässige Ladungen werden überschritten.

Diff    Füll. Ladung    v0     E0     Pmax  Pmünd  Abbrand  D_Zeit
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-10,0   69    36,90   1911    1565   17445   4662     83,3    1,710
-09,0   70    37,31   1931    1598   17854   4739     83,9    1,693
-08,0   70    37,72   1951    1631   18272   4816     84,5    1,676
-07,0   71    38,13   1971    1665   18700   4892     85,1    1,659
-06,0   72    38,54   1991    1699   19138   4968     85,7    1,643
-05,0   73    38,95   2011    1734   19588   5043     86,2    1,626
-04,0   73    39,36   2032    1769   20047   5118     86,8    1,610
-03,0   74    39,77   2052    1804   20518   5193     87,4    1,594
-02,0   75    40,18   2072    1840   20999   5267     87,9    1,579
-01,0   76    40,59   2093    1876   21493   5340     88,5    1,563
+00,0   76    41,00   2113    1913   21998   5413     89,0    1,548 

Let us know how it works and be careful. Loading density is 76.5% with 41 grain or less.

DUK,

Thanks again. I will be sure to use some filler. Will let you know how it goes.

If you use filler just be sure it is COMPRESSED between the powder and the bullet.

Either a foam plug or dacron polyester will work best.

I use both with my double rifles.

Appreciate the reminder. I have loaded with filler in the past. But it always helps...

375 AI

My wife and I hunt with Drillings all the time.

They make great hunting guns.