Gents!
I am looking for listed data for my drilling.
I need data for all bullet weights but especially for the heavier ones.
I have received a reply from Norma that they do not have any data for that caliber.
Minimum legal energy for intended use is 2000 joule at 100 m and minimum 155gn bullet.

I have seen table data in some book but cannot say which.
All help is appreciated.

Sincerely
Daniel

Steve usually has some load data should be under .264 bullet diameter.
http://stevespages.com/page8a.htm

6.5X57 Rimmed
RWS 6.5x57R brass//CCI 250 primers//160 Hornady RN//Hodgdon H-870 56.5//2,485 fps

But, I don't know if you can find these components in Kiruna.

hivelosity
Thanks for the link! Will add it for future use!

DaMan

Thanks for the recipy!
56,5 gn seems like a full house load.

Cases have been ordered from Germany, the general agent for Hodgdon can send powder via bus and I have access to old 160gn Norma alaska bullets as well as the newer 156gn Oryx. Old military 160gn FMJ are probably also inbound. I am just waiting for another company to send me my Redding dies and then I am in business!

My gun dealer had an old load data book where I saw that the 6,5x57R could be loaded to ca 150 fps faster than the 6,5x55SE with identical bullets, but I have to find out which book it was.

Any and all other recipies and data are most welcome!

Sincerely
Daniel

100gr Hornady 41gr H4895 3004fps
120gr Nosler 43 gr H380 2778fps
ditto 48gr H4831 2777fps
129 Hornady 45gr H4350 2657fps
140gr Hornady 47.5gr MR3100 2604FPS
160GR Hornady 56.5grH870 2485fps

Source,The Unpretentious 6,5x57 by C.A.Benke
You can use 6,5x55 dies just to neck size them.

Daniel, loads for heavier than 9,1 g (140gr.) bullets are few and far between!

But I was able to find another one for you.

Note that case and primer type is NOT listed.

quote:

6.5x57R Load
Warning! Notes: Used in a test rifle with 6.5, 5.6 and 16 gauge barrels. (Rifle Issue #18 - November, 1971)
Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.

160 Hornady RN//IMR IMR-4831 44.0gr.//2,334fps

quote:

Originally posted by Huglu:

56,5 gn seems like a full house load.

Here's the complete info on the load I gave you previously. Yes! I think it is probably pretty HOT! So work up the charges.

quote:

6.5X57 Rimmed
Warning! Notes: test rifle: Zoli combination 12 gauge over 6.5x57R, 24.4 inch (62 cm) barrel; temperature: 90 degrees F.; components: RWS 6.5x57R brass with CCI 250 primers (Rifle Issue #97 - January 1985)
Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.

160 Hornady//Hodgdon H-870 56.5gr.//2,485 fps

You only need about 700m/s at the muzzle to reach the 2,000 joule @ 100 meter requirement. So start out low and carefully work up.

Please keep us posted on your progress.

Don in CO

Gents!
Thanks for replies!!!
I will keep you all posted on the progress!!!
I have no wish to squeeze out the maximum velocity, but at the same time I need a load that meets the legal requirements in the case of a late season moose enters the high seat shooting direction...
I also recognize that there are pressure differences in a drilling load and for a new kiplauf and have no intention of doing something that the gun will not handle in the long run.

Sincerely

Daniel

According to the German reloading manual Wiederladen, you normally will not be able to get a 6,5x57R to a 6,5x55 velocity. Probably your smith's book was about the non rimmed version, which can indeed be loaded a little hotter than a Swede.
In the listed loads from 155 to 160 grains the Swede can handle 0.5 to 1.0 grains of powder extra and with that the Swede is 10-20 m/s faster than the 6,5x57R. All listed loads in the book are with Rottweil powder and they recommend to use R904 which is in the same leage as Viht N160.
I just had a look in a Viht. reloading guide from 2002. In it there is a load for the 6,5x57R with a 156 grains Norma SP. COL is 81.5 mm and the listeed max load of 43.1 grains N160 gives 730 m/s.
I'm shooting the non rimmed 6,5x57 with much pleasure so I hope you will be succesfull with yours.

Gents!
Thanks for replies!
The RWS cases has now arrived from Germany and I will sacrifize one to make a dummy round to determine the maximum COAL.

Now just waiting for dies and powder...

Sincerely
Daniel

Gents!

Just an update on the progress!

I have finally managed to get some time for load development and have put together some cases.

I worked up a load with Norma MRP-2 powder and the Norma Oryx 156gn bullet. I used the 6,5x55SE minimum data as my maximum charge and reduced the charge as I worked my way towards it.
I got a 2" group at 100yd, 3 shots without too much waiting between the shots. If I do my thing and let the gun cool down the group will be around 1". More than enough for moose anyway. Shooting fast makes the group spread out vertically which is expected. A warm barrel produces small groups 6" above the impact point of the first shot.

Data are 48gn MRP-2, Norma oryx 156gn, RWS cases, PMCNTLRM primer, Chronographed at ca 5 m to 750-755m/s. I.e. identical to the published starting data at Norma.cc which states 760 m/s for the 48gn charge. The 6,5x57R case is a bit larger than the 6,5x55SE and the drilling have a slightly shorter barrel than a rifle, both enough to produce 5 m/s lower velocities.
No signs of high or low pressure, cases fall out, no sooting, smooth recoil and the gun seems to like the heavy bullets better than the 140gn FMJ I have tested.

Data in fps for 156gn oryx
2478
2473
2464
2478
2464

Data for 139-140gn Prvi Partizan FMJ
h4350
3x 38gn,
2314
2248
2271
2277 av
66 es
33 sd

3x 38,5gn,
2283
2256
2359
av 2249
es 103
sd 53
cases sooty, black

3x 39gn,
2385
2359
2294
av 2346
es 91
sd 46
cases sooty, black

3x39,5gn
2398
2460
2406
av 2421
es 62
sd33

It seems the h4350 is not a god powder for this cartridge and bullet weight. these bullets also hit 6" higher than the oryx. Low velocity, incomplete combustion, big groups are some drawbacks.
I would love to get my hands on some 155-160gn FMJ bullets from the old army 6,5x55SE to see if they shoot to the same point as the Oryx.
I would also need a varmint round but that will also make it necessary to fit another scope on the drilling.

Sincerely

Daniel

Maybe try pushing the 4350 weight a bit more?

I shoot a 6.5 x 57... not the rimmed version tho..

mine is a bolt action Model 70...

I use IMR 4064 across the board.. however RL 15 is also a good choice with excellent accuracy..

the 6.5 x 57 is my favorite cartridge.

it and 6.5 Swedish data is pretty interchangable.

my standard load is 40 grains of IMR 4064 with a 140 grain bullet and it gives an MV of 2800 fps out of my rifle.

of course anyone using it, should work up..
especially in a drilling..