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Lyman Qwik Spray Case Lube -- Does not work!!!
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Hi,

tired this last night for the first tiem and now I have a case stuck in the die.

Followed the instructions to the letter and even used more lube than suggested.

Do any of these spray lubes actually work?

Any suggestions on how to remove the case? The die is a Lee sizer die for .375 H&H.

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Posts: 392 | Location: Pretoria, South Africa | Registered: 30 March 2009Reply With Quote
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You say that you used it as directed... Did you clean the die and spray some inside? I failed to do that the first time I used Honaday's spray lube and I stuck a case also. It was my first stuck case.

I also had problems with dents on the shoulder when using the spray. I don't see how others use this stuff without getting dents because you are bound to get some on the neck and shoulder.

I plan to stick with the RCBS lube pad and Imperial wax.


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Correct. Disassembled, cleaned using a small bottle brush and Benzine, allowed to dry, sprayed liberally with the lube then reassembled.

I also coated the cases liberally.

I did a Google search and saw that there are varied results reported for this product. Some say it work find but many report stuck cases.
 
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I'm on my secound can with no problem spray on let dry then size.

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Maybe the problem is that I did not let them dry?

What dies do you use this with? Any specific make?
 
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Gidday Guys.

Just use Imperial sizinhg wax and forget about anything else, Just use as directed and a tin will last a lifetime.

Happy Hunting

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i've had zero problems with dillons spray on lube, but i have had stuck cases with hornadys one shot and the rcbs one. i don't think they have the body of dillons so the lube gets to thin
 
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I have used Midway and Lymans and both work fine for me. If you don't let them dry they build up in the shoulder area and cause dents. No real problem. I also use Imperial with no problem.


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i use "one shot" case lube. works great for me unless i don't let the cases dry first. And yes, make sure you clean factory dies before you use them!


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I have no use for spray case lubes but the One Shot, used as directed, worked fine for me the one time I tried some and I doubt it's much - if any - different from Lyman's.

Most of the problems I've read about seem to come from:

(1) failure to shake the can before use and again, often, during use to keep the propellant and lube mixed.

(2) failure to allow the propellant to completely evaporate before trying to size.

Spray case lube dents should NOT occur IF the propellant is allowed to evaporate as directed.

I load smallish volumes so I use Imperial/Unique waxes, applied with my finger tips as I pick the cases up and avoid a lube pad that quickly gets dirty.

You can usually get a stuck case our of a Lee sizer pretty easy, Lee made it to be so.

First, remove the collet that secures the expander/decapper rod in the die top and then, with the die screwed into the press and the decapping pin in the flash hole to center the rod, simply hammer on the top of the decapping rod and drive the case out. A brass face hammer would be nice but if you burr the top of the rod just file the burr down and reassemble the die.
 
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To get the case out, get an RCBS stuck-case removal kit. It's a drill, a tap, a capscrew and a little steel cup. You drill the primer pocket, tap it, then use the capscrew to pull the case out with the cup positioned over the case head. Works very slickly. Takes just a few seconds to pull a stucky. Don't cut the head off it it's sticking out of the die. The kit costs about twenty bucks, I think. You may not use it again for years, but one is always good to have on hand if a buddy sticks one, you stick a case when the sportin' goods store is closed or there is two feet of snow on the road to town...
 
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umshiniwam sorry for not geting back but my internet was down. I uses RCBS,Redding and Hornady have had no issues with any of them I did clean my dies before trying the lube.Just normal cleaning sence.

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+ 1 Hamish.
The only stuck case I have ever had has been w/ the spray lube.
Imperial is what I now use and it works great.
 
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I've used Lyman's spray lube for years and occasionally had a stuck case.....Bartsche was kind enough to send me his supply as he just didn't like it at all

Thanks again Roger...

Anyway.....everyone kept telling me to use Imperial die wax so I got a small can and tried it.....Haven't had a stuck case since!!!!

Thanks Roger for the advice....Imperial wax is the slickest stuff on the market and I'll not be without it.


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Originally posted by umshiniwam:
Maybe the problem is that I did not let them dry?

What dies do you use this with? Any specific make?

Huge problem. All of those spray lubes must dry to work. Try sizing wet & they always stick reglardless of how you prep the die. I'm sure the instructions say that, it is explicit on the Hornady.


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Yep, let the lube dry. Ive used Hornady One-Shot for over 5 years and I bought a Hornady stuck case remover at the same time just in case.

I'm still using the One-shot. I found the stuck case remover, still new in the box, when I moved last year.


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Originally posted by umshiniwam:
Maybe the problem is that I did not let them dry?

What dies do you use this with? Any specific make?

Huge problem. All of those spray lubes must dry to work. Try sizing wet & they always stick reglardless of how you prep the die. I'm sure the instructions say that, it is explicit on the Hornady.


I think that may well have been the probem then. The can says wait 30 seconds to dry and I waied five minutes. Too much lube probably.

Anyway, I have gone back to the Lee lube which works great, is not messy, washes off easily with water and I got two tubes for the price of one can of the aerosol stuff.
 
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I'm still using Walmart cooking spray. Works great, cheap, never sticks a case, and washes off with hot water and dish detergent. Love it...
 
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If it's stuck, visit your gunshop, I lost a die with DIY case removal (lack of patience hammer method Big Grin).
I also use lymen spray, before sizing I use my finger tips to remove excess lube from the necks to prevent dents, other than that no problems.
 
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I have used the One Shot for years with not one issue---both for hunting and competition ammo.
 
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For rifle cases, I still use RCBS case lube on a pad. The OneShot is just to make sizing a bit easier w/ long pistol cases in carbide dies. It's not gonna stick regardless there.


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Fred I shoot competition and let me tell you that the one shot is very consistent much more so than the water based lube. Try it this way----get a case block or just an old cake pan if you have to and set up the cases about 1.5 inches apart about 5 rows of 10 each on the pan. Then and it helps to have the cases at least waist high holding the well shaken can above pointing downward slightly almost aiming at the shoulder like you are painting back and forth on one side then move 90 degrees and repeat until you cover 360. Let sit for 5 minutes then they will size the same every time because if you did your job right all have the same amount of lube and run through the die like crap through a goose. Do this with the big boys like my 338 Lap Imp and 300 RUM Imp and they size like a 308 does using the RCBS stuff----which I used btw for 25 years…
 
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Hornady One Shot, both pump and aerosol work just fine, but they must dry thoroughly. The pump takes longer to dry but both can be used in excess without problems as long as time to dry is taken.


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I've been using One Shot for 5-6yrs, never had a stuck case that I couldn't attribute to my own fault for being impatient! Roll Eyes I lay the brass out on a paper towel, case necks toward me, spray them at an angle to get some in the necks, then roll the entire batch 180º and do it again on the other side. I trim with a Lee trimmer adapted to work on the RCBS case prep center, while the case is on the lock stud, I wipe the case off with a paper towel and clean the neck with the brush or mop on the machine, works well for me. tu2

 
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You can usually get a stuck case our of a Lee sizer pretty easy, Lee made it to be so.


The man said he has a Lee die, Lee's sizers are MADE for the decapping rod to be used to drive stuck cases out.
 
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I'm still using Walmart cooking spray. Works great, cheap, never sticks a case, and washes off with hot water and dish detergent. Love it...


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by umshiniwam:
Maybe the problem is that I did not let them dry?

Yep tu2


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Originally posted by vapodog:Imperial wax is the slickest stuff on the market and I'll not be without it.


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