Is there anything to it? I appreciate that all guns are unique and no two are the same. But there is a lot of real good factory ammo on the shelves thesedays. How do THEY do it?

Maybe they use some SAAMI rules and experince.

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Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr:
Is there anything to it? I appreciate that all guns are unique and no two are the same. But there is a lot of real good factory ammo on the shelves thesedays. How do THEY do it?

I have wondered the same thing. They have to make ammo that work in various rifle types & endless diffrerences in chambers. I wonder how close they really come to velocity as advertized. Do they use powders or primers that are not availble to reloaders? Curious.

Rumor has it all the Ammo Factories call Rookie Green and simply ask him, "What Load works perfectly with Bullets from different Manufacturers and provides the very best Accuracy in every rifle ever chambered for a specific Cartridge?????"

Then Rookie Green tells them his ocw(fiasco) Load and the Factories never have to Develop their own Loads.

I guess if you're shooting for so so accuacy then the factories make great stuff.

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Originally posted by amamnn:
I guess if you're shooting for so so accuacy t
hen the factories make great stuff.

And therin lies the rub.. One mans accurate is another mans garbage.

There are shooters from all walks of life on these boards, from benchrest fanatics to casual plinkers. I am certianly NOT a benchrest one hole expert nor do I wish to spend countless hours developing loads to perfection. More often than not Id prefer to be able to scare the dickens out of a bullseye @ 100 yds and then go hunting.

Ive spent quite a bit of time in days gone by splitting hairs in reguards to this primer and that brass and seating depths and 1/2 a grain more here or 1/2 a grain less there and found that IMO a lot of it becomes nonsense and a waste of time. In other words I feel that it is relativley easy to develop a load that frankly is more accurate than ME, and for the purpose of hunting a guy would be better off spending that time practicing with "so so factory loads"...

So I guess where Im going with this is Im more or less looking for ways to simplify the process. In my experience the most important factors are first you need to start with a good gun (obviously), then its all about finding a bullet that the gun likes and a powder charge that it loves. Ive also found that more often than not ballist tips or accubonds make the search for a compatible bullet REALLY EASY!!

There is also something to be said for "pet loads" and learning from others experience. No, it doesnt always work, but very few would deny that certian loads are just uncommonly cozy with certian chamberings.

Ill end this with a question. Does anyone have a source of powders that were made for specific chamberings? Seems to me that would be a good place to start for someone looking for "hunting accuracy" (for lack of a better term).

Here are a couple of combos that I have found exceptional..

Rlr 15 and 308 Win or 300 savage

IMR 4064 and 8mm Mauser

Win 760 and 30-06 (or 4350)


Plenty more but those are just a few of my favorites. Anybody else care to add to that?

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Originally posted by Iron Buck:

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Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr:
Is there anything to it? I appreciate that all guns are unique and no two are the same. But there is a lot of real good factory ammo on the shelves thesedays. How do THEY do it?

I have wondered the same thing. They have to make ammo that work in various rifle types & endless diffrerences in chambers. I wonder how close they really come to velocity as advertized. Do they use powders or primers that are not availble to reloaders? Curious.

I think that "factory rated velocity" for most ammo is usually taken from a high mark that was obtained from their labs to make it more apealing, it doesnt mean that that is what youll get at all.

Not sure about Federal or others but unless Im mistaken I believe that Winchester uses their own powder for their loads.