Who make's Nosler brass?

For those that use them, are they harder or softer then Norma brass?

I've read that Nosler allow's the primer to crater more easily but that depending on the reloader.

From everything I have read, Nosler is making their own brass.

Don't know.

Has less case capacity, so need to drop the powder a bit.

http://www.lasc.us/rangingshot19-4.htm

And of course as soon as I posted that article, found on the Nosler forum that claims Norma is making Nosler brass, so I guess I don't know.

http://www.noslerreloading.com...opic.php?f=4&t=16607

I'm at my seventh loading of Nosler brass for a 7 STW. Those are with max loads and some a little hot. Brass is still in really good shape. Don't know if its worth the price though.

1. I don't know who makes Nosler brass.

2. The only gun I've used both Norma (Weatherby head stamp made by Norma) and Nosler brass in is a 300 Weatherby Magnum. So far, I can see no difference in case durability. Both types of brass are very good and seem to have much better durability than Remington brass which is why I'm willing to pay more for it.

3. I can tell no difference in accuracy or point of impact between the two types of brass and no load adjustment was needed for my load with RL-22.



The above 3 shot group was shot with one cartridge loaded with Weatherby brass and two cartridges with Nosler brass.

Thanks.

I don't know who makes them.

Like Grum, I purchased a box of 50 Nosler Custom Cases for my 300 Weatherby Magnum. At great expense here in Europe I might add.

While I cannot speak for other cartridges; until now I've tried just about all the offerings I'm aware of in 300 Weatherby chambering, Hornady, Weatherby (Norma) & R-P (nickel) cases.

Accuracy is right where Grum is, basically 3 in one enlarged hole but I've had the same accuracy from day one with each of the manufacturers so far using H-4831sc, W-W LRMP's & 165 gr. Swift Scirocco II's.

The brass was as advertised though, completely prepped and ready to Rock 'n Roll.

The acid test for them this (2nd) loading will be the primer pockets which are IMO the weak link in the chain for Weatherby chamberings & brass.

So far, my rank order is; from tighest pockets to loosest - R-P, Hornady, Norma.

Unlike a couple above, I did have some problem with Nosler in my 300 Bee. Noted smaller capacity vs Weatherby headstamp resulted in higher pressure and different POI with 84 gr RL22 w/168 TTSX. Have yet to reload the Nosler brass and it may have expanded to provide same data points on the second reload. Just sayin, I will shoot only Wby and prefer the older Wby brass.

Chances are that Winchester or Olin or whoever owns that factory now--makes brass for Nosler. This is a pretty common situation--that one factory makes many brands of--whatever--refrigerators--the Amana factory makes a lot of brands--or guitar strings--the D'iaddario--factory makes a lot of brands.

This is not to say all brands are alike. Olin (or whoever) decides that their most profitable alloy is thus and such and that so many annealings are necessary and so on. Nosler may specify a different setup.

I bought 50 pieces of Nosler .223 and .30-06 brass a few years back. I found that a lot more care had been taken while sorting these cases than one would find in standard brass of the same type. The weights were all very close, as were the other specifications. This is what you would expect of a premium case such as Lapua or Norma. At the time I bought my brass, Nosler was claiming some outrageous usable life for their brass. I think 38 firings without an annealing was claimed-- I might be wrong on the exact number.

I shot the brass--the .223 a lot more often than the .30-06 and annealed as normal--for me after every fifth firing. Mostly I used a Ken Light annealer with two torches, but after I gave that to my son, I began using an Induction Innovations machine. This heats metal by induction and works quite well.

After 25 firings, the Nosler brass in .223 rem began separating at the head; at least 10 cases showed signs of imminent separation and 2 more actually did separate. The Lapua brass I had been using along with the Nosler showed no such signs. The .30-06 Nosler brass I have used was fired a lot less often and has about 15 firings behind it. No signs of any problem at all in that brass.

The Nosler .223 brass lasted as long as I normally keep brass, and under normal circumstances I would have recycled it after 20 or so firings, but I wanted to see if the long life claim was true. It cost me a die body--the broken body of the case stayed in my die while the head came out. It was cheaper to buy a new die body from a Forster dealer than it was to send the old one back to be cleaned out. Stuck case removers will not work on just the shell of a case.

Question got my interest up. Some Internet searching turned up this:

"I decided to call Nosler about it. Not much info as I tried to press the tech for who the manufacurer was. My guess is it's Norma. But I was told that Nosler brass is made in 2 factories outside the US. It is then 'prettied' up (trimmed, flash holes deburred) across the street from Nosler in Oregon."

"According to Nosler they get their brass from multiple companies and rework it before sale. I suspect the brass has a different manufacture by cartridge."

Nosler Reloading Forum: http://www.noslerreloading.com...+makes+nosler+brass+

"We have a select group of manufacturers that produce the brass to our exact specifications, then all the finish work (weight sorting, full length size, trim to length...) is done here at the factory."

From Antelope Sniper: "Actually, I think it's made my Remington. Remington and Nosler have some identical wording on their packages."

From Rick Smith: "Guess that wouldn't explain the winchester case I found in my Nosler brass."

Bottom Line: Who knows and Nosler will not tell.

Barstooler

Here what I noticed,
everytime that Hornady has new brass offering for a rifle cartridge, then Nosler has the same offering a week later such as 9.3X62 and the 338 Lapua and many others. By the way, I shoot the 9.3X62 Mauser, 338 Lapua, 223 Remington and the 7mm Remington Magnum. I just now noticed that Nosler offer's 7mm Remington ULTRA Magnum, does Hornady? One last thing, I compared my NORMA cartridge brass color to Nosler and they are identical even before and after polishing in the tumbler and I know it doesn't prove my point. Reason for this topic is that I shoot a exspensive cartridge and that's the 338 Lapua Mag and I am trying to save some money, so I bought Hornady and Norma brass and they were only good for maybe 5 full tits reload before primer pockets started to loosen up meanwhile I've gotten close 12 reloads with Lapua brass, I guess there the old saying, "you get what you pay for". I hate to waste money on Nosler brass but I think the bullets are best thing going so far.

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Originally posted by Norseman:
Who make's Nosler brass?

NORMA

That what I figured.

Can you confirm this, Doc? nothing against Norma.