Guys,I am trying Baltips{165&180gr} with H4831SC in 300WM and 30-06.I am looking for data for a starting point.the '06 is a 22" BDL,the 300WM is a 24+" T3.Any recipes shared would be appreciated.Thanks RB

I would start out at 71 grains and work up. For BTs, my rifle liked 73.5 grains H4831SC. The 180 accubonds like 72.5 grains. HOWEVER, these loads are ABOVE max in the sierra manual, but well below max in the hornady manual. Use at your own discression. H4831SC is by far and away my favorite powder for the 300WM.

thanks for the info shilen.Are you using fed 215 primers?

IN the 30/06, you really can't get TOO Much H4831 SC in the case, to over pressurized it.

I have not worked with H 4831 SC in a 300 Mag, but have worked with it in an 06, and you can really load it higher than listed in manuals without pushing the envelope. A lot of times manuals are not listing pressures, with that powder.

Work up as always, but don't let it scare you off in a 30/06. Actually some of the results I have gotten have deleted the need for the Mag.

Cheers and good shooting
seafire

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Originally posted by ruttinbuck:
thanks for the info shilen.Are you using fed 215 primers?

No, I use CCI250. Try what you have in the form of magnum primers and switch if you don't like the results. Guys swear by different primers. Some love WLRM with H4831, but I have had better luck with CCIs.

ruttinbuck,

I personally don't have any experience with the .300 Win Mag so can't help there.

Both the 165 or 180 grain Nosler BT's have given me some of the best accuracy I've ever had out of a .30/06 Sprg. when combined with H-4831sc.

Out of three .30/06's - with any reasonable brand name 06 case & primer and 60 grains of H-4831sc for the 165's and 59 grains for the 180's shot extremely accurately.

I'm with seafire 100% on this one - normally you just cannot get enough H-4831sc in a .30/06 case to get into trouble, the 60 grain load is about as much as you'll get into a .30/06 case without starting to have bullet seating issues.

Like everoyne else has suggested though it's always prudent to start below and work up.

I use the 165 BT's in my 300 Win Mag. I worked up to this load, it shoots great out of my rifle, but is above the recommended load info. I would start lower, probably closer to 73 gr.

Winchester Brass
79 gr of 4831sc
Fed 215 Primer
OAL of 3.550

I think the longer than normal seating depth is what's keeping the pressure in line.

Pete

My Winchester 300WM has a 26" tube on it and loves 180 gr. Noslet BT's with a WW case, a CCI primer and 77.5 grs of H4831. That moves through my chrony at 3155 and is very accurate. As always you need to work up the load in your own particular rifle and I found that as I was adding a grain at a time that after a while I could feel a difference in the recoil as the speed increased. I put a new Vais muzzle brake on it and the recoil came back down with the accruacy outstanding. I'm anxious to do some long range shooting with it in preparation for a long range shoot with it this fall. Good luck in your reloading and JMHO.

thanks for the info guys.Now I have some where to start with the powder,Teancum I have been seriously considering a muzzle brake on my 6.75lb T3 to slow down the recoil.I have'nt been able to get many rounds through at once at the range due to vision blur .Hopefully the brake may help that.RB

RB;

I have a Model 70 in 30/06 with a muzzle brake and then had a friend who had the same rifle in 300 Mag with a Muzzle brake on it ( actually the BOSS system).

He had trouble zeroing it, ( he had too big a scope on it in my opinion, but that is what his grand dad told him he needed).

One day at the range, I shot my 30/06 with Remington factory loads and then shot his 300 Mag with Rem factory loads, to zero his scope for him.

The muzzle brake on the Mag actually reduced recoil to levels lower than the recoil on the 30/06! Both with the same muzzle brake and both shooting 180 grain factory loads.

I am not a fan of magnums for most guys. However if you feel you have to have one, I can tell you that a Muzzle Brake on a Mag really does what it was designed to do in spades!

The guy on the bench next to you at the range won't like it much, but your shoulder sure will.

cheers and good shooting
seafire