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Seems like you would want to send clean cases into your decapper and resizer. Am I thinking right here? | ||
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Hello! Yes... that's how I've always done it, but I've read a lot of posts on this and other forums where people have mentioned tumbler media getting caught in the primer pocket and/or flash hole, so I guess not everyone cleans before decapping. The only reason I can personally think of to do the cleaning after decapping would be to get the primer pocket clean as well... although it seems to me you could re-tumble after the first tumble-and-decapping operation. Personally, I would not want to run dirty cases through my sizing dies... seems like an excellent way to get sand scratches inside the die surfaces! Hmmm... wonder if you could rig up a decapping die somehow that would decap without also sizing, then size after tumbling? I'll have to look into it. Thanks! | |||
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Either Lee or RCBS makes a universal decapper, I´m going to be looking in on one myself. Primer pockets don´t get very clean in a tumbler but I´ve used an ultrasound cleaner and that cleans things up very well. | |||
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Tumble before sizing or decapping. Yes media does get stuch in the flash hole! Years ago on many three die sets for straight wall cases the dies were: 1) Size 2) Neck Expand and De-Cap 3) Seat and Crimp But this was before the general availability of tumblers for the homeloader. | |||
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De-capping on your regular press leads to carbon contaminating the lube, making a grinding compund. Mount a de-capping die (they all make one) in a POS $22 Lee press, or use a punch and base (Wilson). | |||
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Clean them BEFORE and After resizing. Before... to get sand and grit off the cases so as not to scratch your dies, and after, to get all traces of lube off the inside and out. Remember, forgivness is easier to get than permission. | |||
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It doesn't matter whether you deprime first or last, media still gets stuck in the flash hole. In fact, that's how I've broken a few decapping pins over the years, now I have a universal decapping die. Works great. I deprime, tumble, resize, tumble, trim/clean the primer pocket, then load. Chuck - Retired USAF- Life Member, NRA & NAHC | |||
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i tumble, deprime/ resize, clean primer pockets trim, chamfer, TUMBLE AGAIN, clean flash holes, sort and reprime. | |||
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Tumbling prior to resize/deprime is unnecessary. It would be very unusual for cases to be contaminated enough with foreign matter to disrupt the resizing process. Tumbling AFTER sizing takes care of the most insidious problem: How to get rid of sizing lubricant. Poking the bits of tumbling media out of the flasholes is a minor hand operation with a small awl or fine-point screwdriver. | |||
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For rifle cases, I never tumble before sizing, unless the cases are really grungy. I size using water soluble lube, trim to length, then agitate in hot, soapy water, which completely removes all traces of lube, then rinse. When dry, I tumble overnite. ------------------------------------------------- "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder." | |||
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Depends on whether they are rifle or straight walled pistol cases. I do not want lube on cases going into a chamber for firing. For pistol cases that can be sized in a carbide die, I tumble before decapping and don't worry about it. For rifle cases that must be lubed for sizing, I tumble after sizing and decapping if they are reasonably clean before hand. I usually wipe the lube off of the cases with a rag and WD-40 to clean them before going into the big tumbler. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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I wipe the cases down with a soft cloth as I inspect them. Then they are resized. I also lube the inside of the neck. Then I tumble them. This removes the resizing lube, inside and out. Some media gets stuck in the flash hole but this is not a perfect life. A Bic Stik works nicely removing the media. | |||
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I tumble to clean my cases of powder residue & dort BEFORE sizing. Tumbling after sizing seems mostly cosmetic.  LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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+1 on what Chuck White says. I use the cheapo Lee to deprime, then tumble to clean b4 sizing. Then tumble after to get the lube off. Fast Ed Measure your manhood not by success, but by significance. | |||
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I wipe the empties down with a rag and laquer thinner to remove any powder residue, deprime and size, then tumble, clean the flashole, prime and then load. | |||
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I dont want to hijack this thread bit i was wondering what the difference is in tumblers? why is one 60 and one 160? What do you all prefer? thanks for the help. Adam | |||
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i personnally clean in walnut, then inspect. then i resize and deprime. then i run mine thru a mixture of water and rcbs sidewinder liquid. then finish with corn. | |||
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i tumble before i size them. then afterwords for a few minutes to get the case lube off | |||
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adam - i think the different numbers refer to the capacity of the tumbler (large versus small). i bought a lyman tumbler ( see this link: http://www.baitshopboyz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13749&PN=1 ) and like it a lot - does what i need it to do with no mess or fuss. | |||
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I usually tumble, resize/deprime, tumble again to remove sizing lube, check primer pocket and flash hole for media, then remainder of reloading procedure. I tried using a larger media (corn cob) to avoid media in the primer pocket or flash hole but then the media would not fall out of the cases naturally so I went back to the small media. Red C. Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion. | |||
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i wash them after i neck size and de prime in a mild mix of cold water and cq55 it cleans inside and outside live them over the cooker and let them dry use them the next day saves all the media getting stuck | |||
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Not really. I've never found tumbling them first to get them clean enough to size necessary. I find wiping them off with a rag sufficient. After sizing, I wash in soapy water to remove the lube, as I don't like the media comtaminated with it. After they're dry, I tumble them then to thoroughly clean, in and out. The lube needs to be completely removed, either with soap and water for water soluble lube, or whatever solvent is required for non-water soluble, or, at a minimum, by tumbling for quite a while in media. Wiping them off doesn't get the job done. ----------------------------------------------- "Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder." | |||
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I deprime then clean before resizing. But this way must check each case after cleaning and remove any stuck priming media. ________ Ray | |||
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I mounted the Lee Reloader Press ($20.00) to my bench and installed a universal de-capping die in it.($12.00) That is this presses only function in life, to de-prime before tumbling. Yes I have found that every other case will have media stuck in the flash hole, but this is easily removed with the Lee case length gauge. As a bonus, if a case neck happens to be a little out of round, the gauge trues it up enough for the sizing operation. If at first you don't succeed...RELOAD! | |||
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I use the RCBS de-capping die, tumble in walnut then from the flash hole use a small attachment on the bolw gun of my compressor to blow out all the surplus media and eliminate anything getting stuck in the case. It is quck and keeps anything but powder from taking up room inside the case without having to resort to soap and water. I tend to wipe down cases with a cloth as well at various stages. | |||
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