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Anyone have experience with the Nosler Solid Base bullets. I see they are on sale at Nosler. Looking at 30 cal. bullet for a 30-06 and 308 Win. Either a 180 or 165. $7.95 for 50. I have a good load for the 180 Accubond in the 30-06 and it provides good results on deer sized game, but they are expensive - even seconds. The solid base looks like a ballistic tip with out the plastic tip. The Accubond looks like a bonded Ballistic tip. I'm guessing the Solid Base is roughly equivalent to a standard Speer of Sierra bullet. Opinions?? Thanks | ||
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In my experience the Nosler Solid Base is one of the very finest cup-and-core bullets ever made. Not only do they look like the Ballistic Tip with a lead nose, but they are the "father" of the B.Tip, having preceded it by several years. They were eventually dropped from the retail line in favor of the B.Tip, but since tooling already existed for them they have been produced off and on for commercial ammunition loaders. They are sometimes available these days to handloader through special sales like this one. Their design has its basis in a heavier than normal cup from which is extruded a jacket with a thick, boattailed solid base attached. This base appears to provide resistance to deformation from the pressures of the propellent to enhance accuracy, as well as serving as the driver which provides surprising penetration, even if the core is almost completely shed. Compared to a similar weight/caliber of Speer-Sierra-Hornady, they provide similarly quick expansion but generally also provide deeper pentration. They were originally advertised as a "deer" bullet, but I wouldn't hesitate to hunt game like elk with the heavier ones in the line. The 100 grain 6mm is ALL I have used in my .243 for many years (not available in this sale) and have had excellent performance on deer with it. Likewise, the .270/130 is ALL I use in my .270 Winchester. I made my longest kill ever with this bullet on a small doe a few years ago; other kills on larger deer have mostly been with a single shot. They're the best kept secret in the hunting world. | |||
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I just bought 200 of the 165 grain solid base. Check out this accuracy with a surplus K-31. | |||
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IMO the Solid Base was a wonderful bullet. In the '80's I had loads worked up in several different rifles (243, 257, 25/06, 264, 270). Then Nosler dropped them in favor of the BTips (after sending me a letter claiming that they "have no plans to discontinue", etc). I'm still mad at them. My advice to you is buy enough to last, 'cause if they are on sale, Nosler may be getting ready to drop them again! | |||
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I had good luck with them in my 708 and 30-06 as far as accuracy went until they were dropped for the BT. I only shot one deer with one, a 140 gr from the 708 at ~2700 fps and found the deer did a bang/flop when hit. Good bullet IMO ------------------------------------ The trouble with the Internet is that it's replacing masturbation as a leisure activity. ~Patrick Murray "Why shouldn`t truth be stranger then fiction? Fiction after all has to make sense." (Samual Clemens) "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". | |||
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I started buying up all of them I could find about nine years ago, based on the advice of a good friend in Idaho. He told me the 162-grain 7MM Solid Base out of a 7MM RM would go completely through an elk at 350 yards, based on his own experience. I now have over 50 boxes of the Original SBs, at 100 to a box. I have 32 different configurations, at least one full box of each, from 22 caliber to 30 caliber. They are incredibly accurate, and I have yet to have one come apart on game... | |||
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the link to this sale has disappeared. does anyone still have it and repost. thanks i need to order some more. | |||
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I have shot the 165 grain solid base in my .30/06 since the early 80's. IMO it is one of the most accurate bullets I have ever shot. Devestating on whitetails. NRA Life Member "get busy living... or get busy dying" NRA Life Member HHI Member SCI Member "get busy living... or get busy dying" | |||
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The Solid Base 150gr bullets were my staple diet in my 7X64 in the 1980's. I was so pissed that they discontinued them I have never bought a Nosler Ballistic Tip. If Chuck Norris dives into a swimming pool, he does not get wet. The swimming pool gets Chuck Norris. | |||
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the accubond IS a bonded ballistic tip. shoot the same weighted ballistic tips and accubond, they will both do the same sized groups and fly down the same holes with the same load. similar to the extreme on the outside, the insides are just a little different | |||
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What Stonecreek said about the 243 100gn bullet. Lot of unhappiness and avoidance of Nosler when that was dropped. | |||
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By the way....the 6mm, 100 grainer is there on the sale.. | |||
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Disadvantage of Solid Base vs. Ballistic Tip? If you don't hit anything "important", unlike the BT the SB may pencil through. Lost a whitetail @ 140 yards that way. Pindrops of blood for 500 yards, then zippo. Had six people looking. I'd gathered the BT was a remedy for such situations. Larger quarry, or deer hit somehere "important" (organ or bone) might open the SB up better, also at further distance. Anyhow, they shoot to the same point-of-aim in my 7mm's as BT's. BNagel _______________________ | |||
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Kind of hard to fault the bullet if you do not have more data than one shot. I have one shot that says I was the best shot in the world too. | |||
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Fault was mine. How's that? :-) I'd use them on something slightly larger, but tipped bullets instead on TX whitetails. Or, simply forego lung shot, just in case. _______________________ | |||
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Killed my largest elk and best whitetail in the late '80's using a 180 grain SB out of my .30'06. Elk dropped at the shot and deer ran maybe 20 yards, same as the other deer I've taken with them. | |||
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They are supposed to be the same bullet as the BT, just the lead tip. When nosler started making the ballistic tips and touted them as a big game bullet, folks started having real problems with them, especialy the .308's, they were very tender at belted mag velocities. So nosler changed the bullets designed to be used as game bullets to the exact makeup of the NSB, and packaged them differently, the game bullets are now 50 per box and the varmint versions are 100/250 per box. they then discontinued the NSB, so they don't tool up for limited runs for contract purposes, they just use a lead tip insted of polymer. RR Born to Hunt, Forced to Work. | |||
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Nosler dropped the Solid Base to double the price. It is a good citizen's duty to love the country and hate the gubmint. | |||
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In my book.....plastic tip is bad! Lead tip is good!!! Look how bad the sst hornady blew up when they put the plastic tip on top of a normal interlock jacket.....went much more explosive. Basically any plastic tip bullet is a hollowpoint with an "accelerator" (IE plastic tip) to speed up the bannana peel even faster! | |||
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Try http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=11&b=5&s=9 "How's that whole 'hopey-changey' thing working out for ya?" | |||
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