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Dutch, My version of quickload didn't have Benchmark or RL-10, I did run TAC. 53.0grs gave "red" pressure, 52.5 was the highest load I could get in the "purple" pressure catagory. The following is the text dump of the load. Hope it helps, let me know if you want other powders etc.......DJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Table produced by not verified Ballistics Calculations! Check results always against loading data of current reloading manuals! Input data and results may be invalid or wrong! The use of this data for loading ammunition can cause, directly or indirectly, serious injury to personnel and material. No responsibi- lity is implied and THE USER MUST ASSUME THE ENTIRE RISK OF USING THE DATA. QuickLOAD Interior Ballistics V.2.9 # 501442 - distributed Imported into USA by NECO, P.O. Box 427, Lafayette, CA 94549 � Copyright 1987-2002 - H.Broemel, Babenhausen, Germany ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Case capacity and propellant properties may vary considerably from lot to lot! **** Input data: Date: 25-Oct-2004 Time: 19:38:18 Cartridge................. = .348 Win. Projectile type........... = .348, 200, HDY FP 3410 with flatbase - friction-proof treatment Max.avg.pressure(Piezo CIP)= 46412 psi Shot start / init pressure = 2393 psi Projectile weight (gr)= 200 Groove caliber (in)= 0.348 Length of cartridge (in)= 2.750 Length of case (in)= 2.255 Case capacity(Grains Water)= 75.50 Length of projectile (in)= 0.950 Length of barrel (in)= 20.000 **** Values calculated: Seating depth (in)= 0.455 Volume displaced (gn H2O)= 10.95 Comb.chamber volume(gn H2O)= 64.55 Projectile travel (in)= 18.200 **** Input data: Propellant type........... = Ramshot TAC Charge weight..........(gr)= 52.5 Load density......(g/cu.cm)= 0.812 Heat of Explosion (cal/lb)= 428487 Ratio of spec. heats cp/cv = 1.231 Solid density (gr/cu.in)= 414.7 Weighting factor.......... = 0.5 Burning rate factor Ba(1/s)= 0.634 Pro-/degressivity factor a = 0.965 Burning limit ......... z1 = 0.4 Combust.Chamber Vb(ft�)= 1.479892E-4 Factor.................. b = 1.572 X-S.Area of Bore A(ft�)= 6.509171E-4 Bulk density (gr/cu.in)= 249.1 Projectile mass mp (lb)= 2.857143E-2 Loading ratio (%)= 82.4 Projectile travel x(ft)= 1.516667E+0 **** Results calculated: Maximum pressure ........ = 45299 psi Way of projectile at Pmax = 1.65 in Muzzle velocity ......Ve = 2534 fps Muzzle pressure ......Pe = 8802 psi Project. energy at muzzle = 2852 ft.lbs Fraction of powder burnt = 98.9 % Projectile travel time from 10% Pmax to muzzle = 1.11 ms WARNING: Near Maximum Average Pressure - tolerances can cause dangerous pressures ! Real maximum of pressure inside barrel. End of combustion after the projectile passes muzzle. Table of progress of computed firing process: NR.: x(in) z (%) v (fps) p (psi) t (ms) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0 0.000 1.12 0.0 2393 0.0000 1 0.000 1.16 0.8 2470 0.0007 2 0.000 1.16 0.8 2470 0.0036 3 0.000 1.21 1.9 2586 0.0076 4 0.000 1.26 3.0 2702 0.0118 5 0.000 1.32 4.2 2818 0.0167 6 0.001 1.40 5.9 2991 0.0223 7 0.001 1.48 7.6 3164 0.0286 8 0.002 1.58 9.6 3374 0.0355 9 0.003 1.70 12.2 3632 0.0431 10 0.004 1.84 15.0 3917 0.0511 11 0.006 2.00 18.2 4238 0.0596 12 0.008 2.17 21.9 4610 0.0686 13 0.011 2.38 26.1 5026 0.0780 14 0.014 2.61 30.9 5500 0.0877 15 0.018 2.87 36.3 6029 0.0977 16 0.023 3.16 42.4 6617 0.1079 17 0.029 3.49 49.1 7271 0.1184 18 0.036 3.86 56.7 7992 0.1290 19 0.043 4.27 65.2 8785 0.1398 20 0.053 4.73 74.6 9657 0.1506 21 0.063 5.24 84.9 10602 0.1616 22 0.075 5.80 96.4 11626 0.1726 23 0.089 6.42 108.9 12729 0.1836 24 0.104 7.10 122.7 13914 0.1947 25 0.121 7.84 137.8 15173 0.2058 26 0.141 8.66 154.2 16504 0.2168 27 0.162 9.54 172.0 17905 0.2279 28 0.186 10.50 191.2 19367 0.2389 29 0.213 11.54 211.9 20885 0.2499 30 0.242 12.67 234.1 22449 0.2608 31 0.274 13.87 257.9 24052 0.2718 32 0.310 15.17 283.3 25678 0.2826 33 0.348 16.55 310.3 27317 0.2935 34 0.391 18.03 338.8 28956 0.3043 35 0.437 19.59 369.0 30580 0.3152 36 0.486 21.25 400.7 32181 0.3260 37 0.540 23.01 434.0 33741 0.3367 38 0.599 24.85 468.9 35248 0.3475 39 0.662 26.79 505.2 36696 0.3583 40 0.730 28.83 543.0 38067 0.3691 41 0.803 30.95 582.2 39352 0.3799 42 0.881 33.17 622.7 40546 0.3907 43 0.965 35.47 664.5 41639 0.4016 44 1.054 37.86 707.5 42630 0.4125 45 1.150 40.33 751.6 43508 0.4234 46 1.248 42.79 795.2 44249 0.4340 47 1.297 43.93 815.3 44513 0.4390 48 1.347 45.06 835.4 44737 0.4440 49 1.397 46.18 855.6 44921 0.4490 50 1.448 47.28 875.7 45067 0.4539 51 1.501 48.37 895.9 45177 0.4589 52 1.554 49.45 916.0 45251 0.4638 53 1.609 50.52 936.2 45291 0.4687 54 1.622 50.79 941.2 45296 0.4699 55 1.636 51.05 946.2 45298 0.4711 56 1.643 51.19 948.8 45299 0.4717 57 1.647 51.25 950.0 45299 0.4720 58 1.650 51.32 951.3 45299 0.4724 59 1.707 52.37 971.4 45282 0.4772 60 1.764 53.41 991.6 45234 0.4821 61 1.823 54.43 1011.7 45156 0.4870 62 1.883 55.45 1031.9 45050 0.4919 63 1.945 56.45 1052.0 44916 0.4969 64 2.008 57.44 1072.1 44755 0.5018 65 2.072 58.42 1092.3 44569 0.5067 66 2.137 59.39 1112.4 44359 0.5117 67 2.205 60.35 1132.6 44125 0.5167 68 2.273 61.30 1152.7 43868 0.5217 69 2.344 62.23 1172.9 43590 0.5267 70 2.416 63.16 1193.0 43291 0.5318 71 2.489 64.07 1213.2 42973 0.5369 72 2.565 64.97 1233.3 42636 0.5420 73 2.642 65.86 1253.4 42280 0.5472 74 2.721 66.74 1273.6 41908 0.5524 75 2.802 67.61 1293.7 41519 0.5577 76 2.885 68.46 1313.9 41115 0.5630 77 2.971 69.30 1334.0 40696 0.5684 78 3.058 70.14 1354.2 40263 0.5738 79 3.148 70.96 1374.3 39817 0.5793 80 3.240 71.77 1394.5 39359 0.5848 81 3.334 72.56 1414.6 38889 0.5904 82 3.431 73.35 1434.7 38407 0.5961 83 3.531 74.13 1454.9 37916 0.6018 84 3.633 74.89 1475.0 37415 0.6076 85 3.738 75.64 1495.2 36905 0.6135 86 3.846 76.38 1515.3 36386 0.6195 87 3.957 77.11 1535.5 35860 0.6256 88 4.071 77.83 1555.6 35327 0.6317 89 4.188 78.54 1575.7 34787 0.6380 90 4.308 79.23 1595.9 34242 0.6443 91 4.432 79.91 1616.0 33691 0.6507 92 4.560 80.59 1636.2 33135 0.6573 93 4.691 81.25 1656.3 32575 0.6639 94 4.827 81.90 1676.5 32012 0.6707 95 4.966 82.53 1696.6 31445 0.6776 96 5.109 83.16 1716.8 30875 0.6846 97 5.257 83.78 1736.9 30304 0.6917 98 5.409 84.38 1757.0 29730 0.6990 99 5.567 84.97 1777.2 29156 0.7064 100 5.729 85.55 1797.3 28580 0.7139 101 5.896 86.12 1817.5 28004 0.7216 102 6.068 86.68 1837.6 27429 0.7295 103 6.246 87.22 1857.8 26853 0.7375 104 6.430 87.76 1877.9 26279 0.7457 105 6.620 88.28 1898.1 25706 0.7541 106 6.816 88.79 1918.2 25134 0.7627 107 7.019 89.30 1938.3 24565 0.7714 108 7.229 89.78 1958.5 23998 0.7804 109 7.445 90.26 1978.6 23433 0.7896 110 7.670 90.73 1998.8 22872 0.7990 111 7.902 91.18 2018.9 22314 0.8086 112 8.142 91.63 2039.1 21760 0.8185 113 8.391 92.06 2059.2 21210 0.8286 114 8.649 92.48 2079.4 20664 0.8390 115 8.916 92.89 2099.5 20122 0.8497 116 9.194 93.29 2119.6 19586 0.8606 117 9.481 93.67 2139.8 19054 0.8719 118 9.779 94.05 2159.9 18528 0.8834 119 10.089 94.41 2180.1 18007 0.8953 120 10.411 94.76 2200.2 17492 0.9076 121 10.745 95.10 2220.4 16983 0.9201 122 11.092 95.43 2240.5 16481 0.9331 123 11.453 95.75 2260.7 15984 0.9465 124 11.829 96.05 2280.8 15495 0.9603 125 12.220 96.35 2300.9 15012 0.9745 126 12.628 96.63 2321.1 14536 0.9892 127 13.052 96.90 2341.2 14067 1.0044 128 13.495 97.16 2361.4 13605 1.0201 129 13.956 97.41 2381.5 13151 1.0363 130 14.437 97.65 2401.7 12704 1.0530 131 14.940 97.88 2421.8 12265 1.0704 132 15.465 98.09 2442.0 11834 1.0884 133 16.014 98.29 2462.1 11410 1.1071 134 16.587 98.48 2482.2 10995 1.1264 135 17.188 98.66 2502.4 10587 1.1465 136 17.817 98.83 2522.5 10188 1.1673 137 18.142 98.91 2532.6 9991 1.1781 138 18.183 98.92 2533.9 9967 1.1794 139 18.194 98.93 2534.2 9961 1.1798 140 18.199 98.93 2534.3 9958 1.1799 141 18.200 98.93 2534.4 9957 1.1800 Muzzle exit | ||
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Thank you, sir! Would you double check, please, that you did in fact run the 358. It looks to me you might have grabbed the 348 instead...... Pressure max doesn't seem right.... Dutch. | |||
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DOOOAAAAA, sorry about that. It would be nice if I could learn to read your original post sorry....... Heres for a 358 Win < !--color-->. I tried TAC and Varget, and adjusted to powder in .01 increments until Pressure was over 58.5PSI. Again please double check everything carefully in case some D.A. like me gets something mixed up again!........DJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Table produced by not verified Ballistics Calculations! Check results always against loading data of current reloading manuals! Input data and results may be invalid or wrong! The use of this data for loading ammunition can cause, directly or indirectly, serious injury to personnel and material. No responsibi- lity is implied and THE USER MUST ASSUME THE ENTIRE RISK OF USING THE DATA. QuickLOAD Interior Ballistics V.2.9 # 501442 - distributed Imported into USA by NECO, P.O. Box 427, Lafayette, CA 94549 � Copyright 1987-2002 - H.Broemel, Babenhausen, Germany ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Case capacity and propellant properties may vary considerably from lot to lot! **** Input data: Date: 26-Oct-2004 Time: 10:25:08 Cartridge................. = .358 Win. Projectile type........... = .358, 200, HDY SP 3515 with flatbase - friction-proof treatment Max.avg.pressure(Piezo CIP)= 58740 psi Shot start / init pressure = 2393 psi Projectile weight (gr)= 200 Groove caliber (in)= 0.358 Length of cartridge (in)= 2.750 Length of case (in)= 2.014 Case capacity(Grains Water)= 57.00 Length of projectile (in)= 0.880 Length of barrel (in)= 20.000 **** Values calculated: Seating depth (in)= 0.144 Volume displaced (gn H2O)= 3.67 Comb.chamber volume(gn H2O)= 53.34 Projectile travel (in)= 18.130 **** Input data: Propellant type........... = Ramshot TAC Charge weight..........(gr)= 52.0 Load density......(g/cu.cm)= 0.973 Heat of Explosion (cal/lb)= 428487 Ratio of spec. heats cp/cv = 1.231 Solid density (gr/cu.in)= 414.7 Weighting factor.......... = 0.5 Burning rate factor Ba(1/s)= 0.634 Pro-/degressivity factor a = 0.965 Burning limit ......... z1 = 0.4 Combust.Chamber Vb(ft�)= 1.222809E-4 Factor.................. b = 1.572 X-S.Area of Bore A(ft�)= 6.864391E-4 Bulk density (gr/cu.in)= 249.1 Projectile mass mp (lb)= 2.857143E-2 Loading ratio (%)= 98.8 Projectile travel x(ft)= 1.510827E+0 **** Results calculated: Maximum pressure ........ = 58442 psi Way of projectile at Pmax = 1.15 in Muzzle velocity ......Ve = 2676 fps Muzzle pressure ......Pe = 8003 psi Project. energy at muzzle = 3179 ft.lbs Fraction of powder burnt = 98.8 % Projectile travel time from 10% Pmax to muzzle = .96 ms WARNING: Near Maximum Average Pressure - tolerances can cause dangerous pressures ! Real maximum of pressure inside barrel. End of combustion after the projectile passes muzzle. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Table produced by not verified Ballistics Calculations! Check results always against loading data of current reloading manuals! Input data and results may be invalid or wrong! The use of this data for loading ammunition can cause, directly or indirectly, serious injury to personnel and material. No responsibi- lity is implied and THE USER MUST ASSUME THE ENTIRE RISK OF USING THE DATA. QuickLOAD Interior Ballistics V.2.9 # 501442 - distributed Imported into USA by NECO, P.O. Box 427, Lafayette, CA 94549 � Copyright 1987-2002 - H.Broemel, Babenhausen, Germany ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Case capacity and propellant properties may vary considerably from lot to lot! **** Input data: Date: 26-Oct-2004 Time: 10:27:01 Cartridge................. = .358 Win. Projectile type........... = .358, 200, HDY SP 3515 with flatbase - friction-proof treatment Max.avg.pressure(Piezo CIP)= 58740 psi Shot start / init pressure = 2393 psi Projectile weight (gr)= 200 Groove caliber (in)= 0.358 Length of cartridge (in)= 2.750 Length of case (in)= 2.014 Case capacity(Grains Water)= 57.00 Length of projectile (in)= 0.880 Length of barrel (in)= 20.000 **** Values calculated: Seating depth (in)= 0.144 Volume displaced (gn H2O)= 3.67 Comb.chamber volume(gn H2O)= 53.34 Projectile travel (in)= 18.130 **** Input data: Propellant type........... = Hodgdon VARGET Charge weight..........(gr)= 53.8 Load density......(g/cu.cm)= 1.007 Heat of Explosion (cal/lb)= 437696 Ratio of spec. heats cp/cv = 1.223 Solid density (gr/cu.in)= 404.6 Weighting factor.......... = 0.5 Burning rate factor Ba(1/s)= 0.635 Pro-/degressivity factor a = 0.110 Burning limit ......... z1 = 0.4 Combust.Chamber Vb(ft�)= 1.222809E-4 Factor.................. b = 1.366 X-S.Area of Bore A(ft�)= 6.864391E-4 Bulk density (gr/cu.in)= 233.9 Projectile mass mp (lb)= 2.857143E-2 Loading ratio (%)= 108.8 Projectile travel x(ft)= 1.510827E+0 **** Results calculated: Maximum pressure ........ = 58571 psi Way of projectile at Pmax = 0.99 in Muzzle velocity ......Ve = 2645 fps Muzzle pressure ......Pe = 8011 psi Project. energy at muzzle = 3107 ft.lbs Fraction of powder burnt = 95.2 % Projectile travel time from 10% Pmax to muzzle = .96 ms WARNING: Near Maximum Average Pressure - tolerances can cause dangerous pressures ! 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Thank you. That's pretty close to where I thought it might be (just a hair slower than 748). Dutch. | |||
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To get an even more accurate result, specify the Case capacity(Grains Water)of YOUR cases (weigh an used case, read scale, fill it with water... read scale.. subtract :-)) Otherwise Quickload gets the standard. | |||
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