Curious, has anyone ever tried these German made dies?

Quality is exceptional, arguably the very best. But then, prices are also intimidating.

Sounds like a Mercedes Benz.

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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
Quality is exceptional, arguably the very best. But then, prices are also intimidating.

Yes, I know the price is a bit over the top - but then again, ridiculous prices are charged in Europe even for standard (e.g. RCBS) reloading kit, so I guess that establishes a base from which to start pricing your merchandise...

When you (and other European reloaders) indicate that Triebel makes an "exceptional" product, what exactly makes them stand out in comparison to US products, say??

- mike

I guess these dies are not so good they make it to the US very often. I have played with a lot of dies and watched many more on Ebay. This is the first I have ever seen of them in about 40 years of hand loading.

I know a precision shooter who swears by Triebel and who orders their custom dies reamed according to his chamber cast. He also states that, apart from their luxury finish, "round" and "straight" are no approximate terms with Triebel. Bullet runout is minimal and the man told me he no longer uses his Wilson hand dies as Triebel does as well and faster (press).

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Originally posted by SR4759:
I guess these dies are not so good they make it to the US very often. I have played with a lot of dies and watched many more on Ebay. This is the first I have ever seen of them in about 40 years of hand loading.

I think Triebel is pretty happy with what they make and they don't need to ship here.

http://www.triebel-guntools.de/en/products/

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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
I know a precision shooter who swears by Triebel and who orders their custom dies reamed according to his chamber cast. He also states that, apart from their luxury finish, "round" and "straight" are no approximate terms with Triebel. Bullet runout is minimal and the man told me he no longer uses his Wilson hand dies as Triebel does as well and faster (press).

Thanks Andre. I can certainly appreciate the attraction of having dies made to match your chamber. I have had this done on several occasions - although from "lowly" US manufacturer Hornady - and have enjoyed the results very much.

I guess I'll have to try one of these dies in the future. Thus far, I have been scared off by the price tag...

- mike

Where do you find pricing and total cost to the U.S.A.?

I am currently using a set in 8,5x63 R Reb loaned by a friend. The perceived quality of manufacturing, design and the weight are indeed impressive, so far I have only formed the cases from 7x65 R brass.

I did however buy a set of used LEE dies in the same caliber for about 1/4 of the Triebel price because I am a tacky Suebian...

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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
I know a precision shooter who swears by Triebel and who orders their custom dies reamed according to his chamber cast. He also states that, apart from their luxury finish, "round" and "straight" are no approximate terms with Triebel. Bullet runout is minimal and the man told me he no longer uses his Wilson hand dies as Triebel does as well and faster (press).

I am sure that is the story that a Triebel user would have to use. The problem is with things made on a lathe almost any bone head that pays attention to what he is doing can make things straight.
So far as I know the largest most talented group of precision shooters are in the US and when Wilson or Jones is not good enough they make their own.

Triebel : Typical German precision, often over engineered, very precise and very very costly ! Way to costly for shooters of modest means.

Their chamber reamers are of equal quality and equally expensive ! For years a standard in our part of the world !

Needed a ID neck reamer for my 20VT cases formed from 17FB.
Triebel was one of the few companies that will provide small straight reamers in .001mm stock sizes.
cost me to import to OZ .
6 day turnaround on delivery
but a 6 flute 20 cal neck ID reamer of exceptional quality.

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Originally posted by SR4759:

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Originally posted by Andre Mertens:
I know a precision shooter who swears by Triebel and who orders their custom dies reamed according to his chamber cast. He also states that, apart from their luxury finish, "round" and "straight" are no approximate terms with Triebel. Bullet runout is minimal and the man told me he no longer uses his Wilson hand dies as Triebel does as well and faster (press).

I am sure that is the story that a Triebel user would have to use. The problem is with things made on a lathe almost any bone head that pays attention to what he is doing can make things straight.
So far as I know the largest most talented group of precision shooters are in the US and when Wilson or Jones is not good enough they make their own.

Wilson makes die blanks. Gunsmith used his chamber reamer to make me a Wilson neck and seater for my 35 WhelenAI and he do one for my 270Wby.

Here another company that furnish die blanks
http://newlonprecision.com/