I'm awaiting my 223 but wanted to get all components ready to load some bullets. I'll be shooting Hornady 50g V-Max and was wondering if anyone out there has a powder suggestion. I've been looking at alot of Data and it seems as though Reloader 10X is a good place to start. H335 and IMR4198 also look good. Any input from guys experienced loadint this caliber would be apperciated. The rifle is a Weatherby bolt with a 24 inch tube. Thanks in advance.

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if anyone out there has a powder suggestion

BL-C(2)

3031 works but I reload 55gr. in a CZ527

I load 50 grs V-Max over VV N130. Seems to work OK, although I primarily load for accuracy, and worry little about speed.

- mike

BL-C(2)X2

There are so many that work well with the .223 that it is hard to make a mistake. Your individual rifle will let you know.

VD's suggestion is as good as any. roger

WW 748 is another excellent choice.

I found that, at least in the .223, regular CCI primers gave me significantly better accuracy than CCI magnum ones, even with a ball powder such as 748.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
There are so many that work well with the .223 that it is hard to make a mistake. Your individual rifle will let you know.

VD's suggestion is as good as any. roger

+1

Win 748 26.5 gr
Rem BR Primers
Black Hills Match cases

Benchmark...H4895...BLC2 with 50-55s
Varget with 69-80s
Works for me !

Other good options: Ramshot TAC and X-terminator,
Accurate 2015 and 2230, and Vihtavuori N-133.

Petem,
I used H335 for years with 50 and 55 grain bullets with excellent results.

Last year after my wife bought me a new Savage Model 12 I tried six different powders with the 40 grain Nosler BT.

I got the best accuracy with H4198, but I got some truly unreal velocities with Reloader 10x.

Most of the time I'll take accuracy over velocity, however, in this case I got over 400 fps more speed while only giving up .10 in accuracy (one round hole in the teens to one ragged hole in the twentys).

Try Reloader 10X!

Thanks for all the sugestions, Doc said he has used the 10 X and I like what I hear from him. The other sugestions seem to go between, BL-C2,Win748 and a few others thrown in there. Thanks for all the input and after I get the rig together and bullets made I'll you know how we made out, Thanks again.

H-4895, with 50 grain bullets. Works in two of my 223's.

Don

Unless I load for absolute maximum loads with 55gr bullets I have trouble with H335.

for a long time I always prefered to use RL7 for autoloaders
Why? because if there is another propellant that will produce less flash and still get proper velocity with a 50-55gr bullet I don't know about it...

For my bolt rifle? Benchmark with either a V-max or Nosler BT

I'd mention my all time favorite load, but Barnes stopped making their VLC bullet.

AD

almost any powder works well in a 223...

however with H 335, I have had it pressure spike twice on me... in a short time period.. from 2 different containers..

both times it damaged the hell out of the rifle and wreaked the stock...

I repaired the rifle and repaired and refinished the stock ( which really looked great when done, better than factory.. ) a month later, same thing again...

was the powder's fault.. no obstruction in barrel etc...the second time I gave the action and barrel to a gunsmith friend who wanted it to turn it into a 222..

the culprit load? 25 grains of H335, 55 grain SP bullet...

I have pulled H 335 off my powder rack...

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Originally posted by seafire2:
almost any powder works well in a 223...

however with H 335, I have had it pressure spike twice on me... in a short time period.. from 2 different containers..

both times it damaged the hell out of the rifle and wreaked the stock...

That is shocking! What kind of metal damage are we talking about? roger

My issues with H335 were the opposite, I had some rounds go "soft" in really cold weather resulting in several inches of vertical stringing.

Even using Magnum caps didn't completely eliminate the problem so I just gave up on it in my bolt gun.

If OTOH you shoot an AR-15 don't care where the bullet goes and want a big BRIGHT muzzle flash H335 is the only propellant to load.

I switched to RL7 in my Mini14 because it produced the least flash.

while tracers work both ways muzzle flashes only serve to reveal your own position.

AD

I recommend H335 with 50-55 gr bullets in the .223. I've used this powder for 30+ years in the .223. Use magnum primers or WSRs and you won't have cold weather problems. Keep the ammo out of the sun light and you won't have pressure spikes (same with any other powder especially when box is left sitting on the dash of the vehicle).

AA2230 is also another excellent powder with 50-55 gr bullets.

Larry Gibson

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If OTOH you shoot an AR-15 don't care where the bullet goes and want a big BRIGHT muzzle flash H335 is the only propellant to load.

Have used H335 behind 55 NBT's in bolt guns and AR's. Haven't noticed abnormal muzzle flash and accuracy, while borderline in my AR, is acceptable :



No pressure problems in my rifle(s), but this is a hot load so start low & work up!
Have shot this load at temps between 35*-97*f w/CCI 400 (standard) primers.

As Larry G. said,

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Keep the ammo out of the sun light and you won't have pressure spikes (same with any other powder especially when box is left sitting on the dash of the vehicle).

Regards,
hm

Depending upon the twist rate of your barrel the bullet might be a good choice or not. I'm not a fan of the slower powders like 335 for that light a bullet. 322 would perhaps work better for you. All rifles are different of course, but the 322 will burn cleaner for sure. I've tried about every powder that is, and some that are no longer made for the .223 rem. and the other small bores. Again, depending upon the twist and bullet weights I like N-133 N-135 N-540 H335 and/or H322. I've tried to like Alliant's various powders for small bores, but it seems like they cannot settle on a formulation that works as well as any of the above and they keep abandoning powders. I did not have good results using varget in either of my .223s with any bullet. It may be that I got some of a bad batch. Several other shooter I know were soured on that powder around the same time, but there are many people who love it. IMR 4064 in its present formulation is an interesting powder to play with; a friend swears by it and I've found it to be quite versatile. W748 can be a pretty good powder too; a little dirty, though.

Hope this is some help.

1000 rounds per day at rodents, consider Blue Dot.

1 shot per day at a coyote, consider H335.

Blue dot is not recommended as a rifle powder, even by Alliant.


http://www.alliantpowder.com/products/blue_dot.htm


http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/RecipeList.aspx?...le=Centerfire%20Load

EVERY POWDER LISTED HERE IS VERY GOOD. I HAVE LOADED ONLY 60 DIFFERENT POWDERS. IF I WOULD QUIT BUYING 8 LB KEGS I COULD TRY MORE. H322 WITH JLK BULLETS IF YOU CAN GET SOME. JLK HAS BEEN SOLD AND THE NEW GUY IS MAKING HEAVY HIGH POWER VLD STUFF, NOT THE 50-55 FLAT BASE ONES. BLUE DOT FOREVER.THEY QUIT MAKING HERCO YOU KNOW. I CRIED A LITTLE BUT STILL HAVE A FEW LBS.