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The Greatest Range Report
14 June 2007, 06:39
bartscheThe Greatest Range Report
In the .308 I was useing 20.7gr. of Blue Dot behind 7 different bullets.They all did better than 1 1/2" at 100 yds.
A 110 gr. RNSP yielded a 3 shot 1/2" group at 100yds. and wonders will never cease the 150gr. FMJBT Golden West got a 4 shot 1/2" group at 100 yds.
In the 6.5X55, a 140 gr. psp Rem. using CBC cases , a215 primer and a crimp at 3.175" oal, was pushed with loads of DP85 starting at 41.5gr. and ending at 44gr. The 41.5gr load had a velocity of 2500fps avg.The 44gr. load yielded a velocity of 2650fps avg.and a group size of 1/4" at 50 yds.
So why is this the greatest range report?
I reached under the table and got my gun case for the .308 and stowed the rifle away. I did the same for the 6.5. I than reached down for the chronograf case handle and stoped, 4 to 6" away from my hand was a rattle snake that had nesseled up to the case. I slowly withdrew my hand while takeing a halting step to the rear.
The snake did not strike!!! That's why it's the greatest range report. I can say that I wasn't scared the whole time---But I'd be lieing.
roger
Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..
14 June 2007, 08:02
308SakoDamn
Be careful out there!
Nice shooting, as always... Damn
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14 June 2007, 08:24
Bobby TomekWhoa...what a close call. Glad that snake was in a peaceful mood today.
Bobby
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14 June 2007, 08:29
hm1996That's too close, roger.
We have lots of rattlers in S. Tx. and fortunately most are more interested in getting away than making trouble.
Here is one of the "good" ones.
And the "big" one that got away:
Glad your experience turned out OK.
Regards,
CD
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If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
14 June 2007, 08:47
dsitemanHello hm1996,
Got my hm in '95. Not many around these days you know. Did mine the old fashion way, w/ irons. Seems like the sport is dying off these days and guess it is more work than the young crowd wants to put out. Seems like the F class is taking over and I have yet to do that type of shooting.
Anyway, that seriously was not a rattler track you are showing is it?? I have seen some really big rascals down Mexico way several years ago. Like the man said, have a care. Favor Center!!
14 June 2007, 09:20
hm1996Hi dsighteman: Yep, seems like lots of younger shooters don't stick with it long enough to make the grade. I used a mod. 70 (30-06) w/Redfield International irons....good thing I made the cut in '96 as my eyes gave out shortly thereafter. I tried the F class, but didn't care for it much, but that was just me.
The snake track is either a rattler or a blacksnake as nothing else gets that big down here. The nearest fence post was between 3.5 & 4" at the base to give an idea of the size of the print. I followed it to a big brush pile and decided I didn't need to know that bad.
Regards,
hm
2 Chronicles 7:14:
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
14 June 2007, 16:17
N. S. SherlockLooks like the tracks big Georgia rattlers leave in sandy paths.
"Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you" G. ned ludd
14 June 2007, 17:21
Hot Corequote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
...reached down for the chronograf case handle and stoped, 4 to 6" away from my hand was a rattle snake that had nesseled up to the case. ...
I keep telling folks to just
leave the chronographs at home 
and enjoy the shooting.
I do carry a fine old revolver with Speer Shot Capsules loaded with some ancient
Lead #7 shot (not that woosie #7 1/2 stuff
) in the first two cylinders, just for Snake Dancing. They do some interesting wiggles once the music starts.
DAMN.... Close one there Roger... I keep my eyes open here in the AZ desert for sure... They not only get big but there are several different species...
Glad you got away with one....
By the way, how long did it take to retrieve your equipment ???
Ken....
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan
14 June 2007, 19:25
Reloaderquote:
I can say that I wasn't scared the whole time---But I'd be lieing.
Bet you had to place a towel or something on the driver's seat for the ride home
Glad you came out ok.
Did you kill him? How many rattles did he have?
It is an eery feeling. 3 Years ago while working in the woods I stood next to a 3 footer coiled up about 6" from my boot for 5min before I ever spotted him. Didn't even have my snake boots on. Just glad I didn't step on him.
Reloader
14 June 2007, 20:26
SShooterZThis is one of the few times I can say I'm glad I live in Illinois.
Nice shooting too!
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14 June 2007, 20:47
bartschequote:
Originally posted by Reloader:
quote:
I can say that I wasn't scared the whole time---But I'd be lieing.
Did you kill him? How many rattles did he have?
Reloader
NO! Relocated him into a different area.He was not very big and I wasn't thinking of counting rattles at the time.
roger
Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..
Roger,
You be one lucky guy!!!!
I'm betting your adrenaline got elevated!!!
Don
15 June 2007, 21:43
bartschequote:
Originally posted by DMB:
Roger,
You be one lucky guy!!!!
I'm betting your adrenaline got elevated!!!
Don
Still is.
roger
Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..
16 June 2007, 08:04
2ndtimerHey, if you guys think Roger was scared, just think how that poor snake must have felt, being that close to Roger!!
Bullets are pretty worthless. All they do is hang around waiting to get loaded.
16 June 2007, 21:19
bartschequote:
Originally posted by 2ndtimer:
Hey, if you guys think Roger was scared, just think how that poor snake must have felt, being that close to Roger!!
Nice touch !
roger
Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..
19 June 2007, 08:18
dustofferJanuary 2005 in South Texas--crawled across the ranch road as we were taking a drive around the place. A .357 in the head at 3' did the job. Skinned and quartered, frozen for later cooking, with the hide in the freezer as well, awaiting tanning.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/dustoffer/snake1.jpg
An old pilot, not a bold pilot, aka "the pig murdering fool"
19 June 2007, 12:46
KennethIquote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
In the .308 I was useing 20.7gr. of Blue Dot behind 7 different bullets.They all did better than 1 1/2" at 100 yds.
A 110 gr. RNSP yielded a 3 shot 1/2" group at 100yds. and wonders will never cease the 150gr. FMJBT Golden West got a 4 shot 1/2" group at 100 yds.
In the 6.5X55, a 140 gr. psp Rem. using CBC cases , a215 primer and a crimp at 3.175" oal, was pushed with loads of DP85 starting at 41.5gr. and ending at 44gr. The 41.5gr load had a velocity of 2500fps avg.The 44gr. load yielded a velocity of 2650fps avg.and a group size of 1/4" at 50 yds.
So why is this the greatest range report?
I reached under the table and got my gun case for the .308 and stowed the rifle away. I did the same for the 6.5. I than reached down for the chronograf case handle and stoped, 4 to 6" away from my hand was a rattle snake that had nesseled up to the case. I slowly withdrew my hand while takeing a halting step to the rear.
The snake did not strike!!! That's why it's the greatest range report. I can say that I wasn't scared the whole time---But I'd be lieing.
roger
Which range did this happen at?
19 June 2007, 21:19
bartschequote:
Originally posted by KennethI:
Which range did this happen at?
Angeles Range in Little Tujunga Canyon.
roger
Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone..
20 June 2007, 05:39
KennethIquote:
Originally posted by bartsche:
Angeles Range in Little Tujunga Canyon.
roger
I go there once in awhile. I'll definitely be more careful about that! I've seen deer run out onto the range but never snakes.