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Originally posted by rolltop:
This is the kind of post one gets when he types more than he reads! Wismon isn't capable of understanding other than simple relationships! I wonder about those as well!

This is the type of post one gets when one can't write. Muffintop isn't capable of writing two grammatically correct sentences in a row. Moron.

Rcaligula and Vapofrog, no, no, actually the two of you are Busheler, whatever the fuck that is.

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Originally posted by Wismon:

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Originally posted by MickinColo:
It’s interesting how your thread just fell apart Wismon. Maybe you shouldn’t ask rhetorical questions (a question asked for the sake of persuasive effect rather than as a genuine request for information).

MickinColon,

It's "interesting" how your sanctimony falls apart. Perhaps you shouldn't make rhetorical statements (a statment made as an underhanded swipe at someone rather than as a genuine suggestion).

I didn’t think it was underhanded at all. You asked a question and didn’t like the answers you got. I really don’t care about your topic one way or the other, I just found it interesting how it fell apart and turned into a pissing contest.

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I didn’t think it was underhanded at all. You asked a question and didn’t like the answers you got. I really don’t care about your topic one way or the other, I just found it interesting how it fell apart and turned into a pissing contest .

....and with everyone!

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Originally posted by MickinColon:
I didn’t think it was underhanded at all. You asked a question and didn’t like the answers you got. I really don’t care about your topic one way or the other, I just found it interesting how it fell apart and turned into a pissing contest.

Well, MickinColon, if you don't care why do you keep responding?

And it sounds like Vapoflog's into pissing, apparently.

I think you’re entertaining now and I have nothing better to do for a few hours.

But make it quick, I don’t have much time for your drivel (To talk stupidly or childishly). By tomorrow, you’ll be history. I'm moving on.

MickinColon,

Let's recap: first you issue an unsolicited underhanded snide comment, then you claim you don't care what I write, and now you claim I'm entertaining but that you'll be "moving on". If I didn't know better I might suspect you had a crush on me but feel jilted. Moving on sounds like your best bet. You should chase a different colon because this one doesn't swing that way.

LOL “Sweet Lips”. I just can't figure out why your such a nasty little person.

"Sweet Lips", huh? Fag.

Good night Wismon. you're a waste of time.

Yeah, sure, you start an unsolicited fight and I'm the waste of time.

We have confirmation...

Definitely a derivitive of the Busheler gene pool....

Yeah, yeah, whatever caligula with your dumb-assed "poetry".

There once was a "Member" named Wismon,

He posted a question and cried some,

Many did answer,

But he proved to be "Cancer",

So Saeed will be forced into banning his worthless a$$ from these wonderful, informative forum pages where most guys are cool.

Oops,

That last line really didn't rhyme....

Dumb assed poetry guy.

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Originally posted by rcaligula:
Oops,

That last line really didn't rhyme....

Nor is it true, rcaligula. Just because you, a self-absorbed sycophant, start a fight doesn't mean the other person get banned.

Meanwhile Vapodolphinflogger continues to "ignore" me post for post...

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Originally posted by Wismon:

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Originally posted by rcaligula:
Oops,

That last line really didn't rhyme....

Nor is it true, rcaligula. Just because you, a self-absorbed sycophant, start a fight doesn't mean the other person get banned.

Meanwhile Vapodolphinflogger continues to "ignore" me post for post...

At least the part about you being a "member" was factual!

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Originally posted by rcaligula:
At least the part about you being a "member" was factual!

By "member" do you mean "penis", homo?

You may fool the ignore-amous Vaposmog,
And get smily faces as you pass,
But your final reward will be to see yourselves as you are:
With his smiley face stuck up your ass.

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Originally posted by Wismon:

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Originally posted by rcaligula:
At least the part about you being a "member" was factual!

By "member" do you mean "penis", homo?

You may fool the ignore-amous Vaposmog,
And get smily faces as you pass,
But your final reward will be to see yourselves as you are:
With his smiley face stuck up your ass.

Ackley Improved User: "Jim C, the final velocity of the bullet is directly proportional to the total area under the pressure curve. Thus, not all 60,000 peak PSIs are the same"

Nicely said and correctly too. But, it's meaningless to what I actually said:

"...The velocity:speed differences you see are due how different burn rates may or may not match the cartridge and bullet, ... 60 K PSI is 60 K PSI no matter what powder is used to get there." --- Meaning the man's question referenced pressures, not burn rates. Even so, note that I DID put the burn rate qualifier you labor over in the first part of my response.

Some tricky stuff, this reading. ??

If the burn rate is similar (read: the same) and the pressure is the same and one sample has more energy then the velocity of that sample must be higher.

It therefore follows that of two powders of the same burn rate that if one has more energy and the velocities are held constant than the sample with more energy will operate at a lower pressure. Otherwise the system is being cheated.

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Ignored post by Wismon posted 29 January 2011 04:40

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Ignored post by Wismon posted 29 January 2011 04:40

Hey wismon,

What is the purpose of this question? It seems to be an exercise in futility. Pick a powder that gives good velocity and accuracy work a load and go shoot till the barrel's worn out.

Repeat.

I can appreciate the possibility that you want to get to the bottom of how things work. To me it looks like you already do and this thread is simply to

What gives?

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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Ignored post by Wismon posted 29 January 2011 04:40

Vapofag in his active mode of "ignoring" showing what he likes: men's asses.

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Originally posted by rcaligula:
Hey wismon,

What is the purpose of this question? It seems to be an exercise in futility. Pick a powder that gives good velocity and accuracy work a load and go shoot till the barrel's worn out.

Or better yet, rcaligula, just buy store bought ammo or army surplus ammo by the crate and shoot til you lose your hearing.

Believe it or not some of us enjoy reloading for it's own sake. Furthermore the implications of the question lead one to realize that given velocities can be obtained at lower pressures, which is of interest to some of us as we ignite powder inches from our eyes.

The real question, though, is what's in it for YOU? Per your own admission you have no interest in this topic yet you jumped in with both feet to start an unprovoked fight.

Didn't get here to fight, just was bewildered at your unorthodox method of gathering information on a subject you wanted to know something about

ie. Insulting, discounting, and arguing with those who offer good faith answers.

P.S.

You don't know me verwy well (said with the Tweety Bird accent)

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Originally posted by rcaligula:
Didn't get here to fight, just was bewildered at your unorthodox method of gathering information on a subject you wanted to know something about

ie. Insulting, discounting, and arguing with those who offer good faith answers.

P.S.

You don't know me verwy well (said with the Tweety Bird accent)

I don't know who you think you're fooling; your first post out of the gate was pointed and insulting. And no, I did not insult people who were honestly engaged in discussion - only those who issued moronic pat responses without addressing the data, as I requested, and those who, after investigating the data, wouldn't address the issues brought up that were related to it.

PS From the behavior you exhibited it's clear to me that I don't want to know you verwy well.

carry on!

I fully intend to.

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Originally posted by ramrod340:

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In your example for equivalent pressures RL19 had a 100 fps advantage over H4831. I think of H4831 as considerably slower than RL19 but I'm willing to concede that point if necessary. Nevertheless, RL19 gave an additional 100 fps. Run them both for the same velocities and compare pressure and I think you'll find that RL19 comes in lower.

RL19 simply using the burn rate data in QL RL19 is 1/4 the way towards H4350 from H4831.

As to the other comment. If at equal pressure RL19 is 100fps faster it stand to reason that at equal velocity RL19 pressure will be lower.

To me it is basically saying the same thing. In this case you can either have equal pressure and higher velocity or equal velocity and lower pressure.

Since you take them both up to a max pressure load how is one operating at lower pressure? There is a good chance that at equal pressure you will have slightly higher velocity from the DB you will also have higher temp.

Ramrod's post on the first page answered your question completely yet you had a bone to pick with his "dead horse" and a ensued unsolicited BY YOU.

No, it didn't "answer" it. He fixated on equal pressures and wouldn't concede that the orginial question had merit. Furthermore to tell someone who has asked a legitimate question that he is beating a dead horse is insulting. It wasn't a pissing match; to the contrary the pissing didn't occur until you and vaporod showed up and tried to piss all over things.

Well then, !

Oh no, Caligula! How can you be so mean? So heartless? So cruel? Is this how you and your likeminded horse-molesters behave at your slumber parties?

Absolutely!

And when we awake from our restful state induced by the beating of the 4 legged beasts, we fire bullets at equal velocities from our rifles; some with DB powders at lower pressure than others who use the SB powders of similar burn rate.

Sometimes though, we will load our rifles to the exact same pressure on purpose and the DB powder slumberers will brag about the superior velocity their sleepy firesticks produce over the SB users.

It's quite a slumber party.

rcaliglia, I think you're doing something else to those four-legged beasts, living up to your namesake...