I've seen reference to cartridges with ICL in the description (ie .218 Bobcat ICL, .375 ICL, etc).

Anyone know what it means? I can't seem to find the definition anywhere...

I believe it stands for Imperial Cartridge Line.

George

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Shoot straight, shoot often, but by all means, use enough gun!

The ICL line was a family of hot wildcat versions of several standard cartridges, designed by [__*___] Juenke of Reno or Sparks, Nevada, as long ago as the '60s or maybe even as early as the '50s.
*I can't remember the developer's first name -- he was Vern Juenke's brother or cousin, I think.

"ICL" stands for (IIRC) "Improved Cartridge Loading." I have been unable to resurrect any paper on any of the ICL line. Should've paid more attention to such things when they were current, I guess.

Juenke Saturn, Inc.
881 Glendale Road
Sparks, Nevada

Glad to see you're still kicking, Ken.

It was Arnold Juenke. Verns' late brother.

Once again, the fellows of this forum prove to be a gold mine of knowledge!

Thanks much!

A. Juneke-Saturn Arms....Same as the Wby line for all practical purposes except the difference being the ICL line had a standard blown out shoulder and the Wby has that ??? rounded shoulder....The non-belted were near a Gibbs in design..Off the cuff from memory.

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com

Sam

The ICL line of cartridges is thoroughly covered and load data provided in P.O. Ackley's books. The line of cartridge was pretty good then and would be just fine now.

If you get the chance to read P.O.'s books it would be well worth your time. We are still benefiting from work done early on by P.O. and guys like Doc Archer with his early short fat case design work.

kind regards

Paul Prochko