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26 July 2003, 03:01
mbogo375
Source for Norma and RWS bullets?
I am looking for Norma 232 grain 9.3 mm bullets, and RWS 193 grain 9.3 mm bullets (or other light 9.3 mm bullets). Does anyone know of a source? I need light weight 9.3 mm bullets for a double that was regulated with 12.7 gram bullets, and has a slow twist. It shoots the old 250 grain Speer great (left and right touching at 40 yards), but I have a very limited supply. Anything heavier or longer does not stabilize well The Nosler 250 BT's are longer than some 286's, but stabilize marginally at the higher speeds-they just don't group as well as the 250 Speer.

I have ordered RWS 193 grain bullets from Old Western Scrounger, but I haven't heard from them yet as to availability. I also know that Hawk lists a 200 grain 9.3 that I might try. I contacted Dynamit Nobel-RWS in New Jersey, but they only sent a catalog and it does not list bullets for reloading.

Please help!!!! [Frown]

Jim
26 July 2003, 12:47
Rottenend
I posed a similar question a few postings down. I emailed Grafs & Sons, who supposedly are the primary Norma distributor/supplier in the States, and was told that they DO NOT special order any Norma ammo or reloading supplies...so much for good customer service! I also saw the RWS 193 gr bullets for sale at Old Western Scrounger, but at $50 per box, I'll let those go. There are a number of heavy weight 9.3mm bullets out there, Nosler makes a 250 gr BT and 286 gr PAR, and Speer their 270 grainer, but nothing on the lighter side. I think the 9.3x62 will slowly gain popularity in the States and sooner or later one of our domestic bullet manufacturers will take notice.
26 July 2003, 13:13
CoonDawg
E-mail sales@groovebullets.com and tell Don what you are looking for. I'm going the other direction heavier but, some lite weights would be great for plinking.
26 July 2003, 13:36
mbogo375
JKuczmarski,
Glad to see that someone else is looking for light weight 9.3's. If I come across anything I will post it here. Looks like I may have to go with the 200 grain Hawks, since I won't be using it on anything larger than deer.

Coondawg,
Thanks, but the monometal bullets tend to be long for their weight. Since I have a slow twist barrel I would have to go with a very light weight bullet to maintain stabilization. Good idea though [Smile] .

Jim
26 July 2003, 17:31
Rottenend
Jim,

If you haven't yet, check out the Hawk Bullet's website at www.hawkbullets.com. They have the 9.3mm 200 gr that you mentioned and also a 9.3mm 235 gr. Price runs about $30 per 50 which isn't bad.

The S.D. of the 200 gr bullet is about .213, which is equivalent to a 100 gr .257 or a 120 gr 7mm. Should be perfect for deer hunting. I'm gonna get some!!

Joe

[ 07-26-2003, 08:36: Message edited by: JKuczmarski ]
26 July 2003, 17:58
N E 450 No2
Gentlemen
I have used Hawk bullets on deer and pigs out of two of my doubles.
In my 450/400 I used 300gr Hawks with the .025jkt. Velocity @ 2300fps. These bullets have given good penetration, some all the way through others trapped by the hide on the far side. They expand fully to a very large diameter, not much of the shank is left.
In the 9,3x74R I have used 285gr. .035jkt, velocity @ 2400fps. These bullets have penetrated just like the 300gr. .408 diameter with the shank of the bullet being longer. Both of these bullets have expanded to a large diameter and have knocked most of the animals down upon impact.
I thought this info might help ya'll decide on which jkt thickness would be best for the velocities of your rifles.