Is it just me and my limited experience or are the Accubonds just that much more accurate than Interbonds? I say this because I've had no luck with the IB in three rifles of known accuracy while the AB has shot well in four different applications. I'm just wondering if I've had bad luck or if this is common trend.

Gabe

Across the board, I've had much better success with the AB than the IB.

It's just you or your rifles! At least from my viewpoint.



These are targets shot 2 days apart from my 300 WSM. These 165 IB's weren't that hard to get to shoot. But this Browning a-bolt is an accurate shooter, not that hard to get any good bullet to shoot. I did have to load to absolute max charges of H-4831 to see the group shrink. Actually I was well over what Hornady recommends for that powder/bullet combo. But Speer says my load was under max! If this holds true for other rifles,(yeahsure!), maybe you should push the envelope.?

I've always been a Hornady fan but i can't get the 130 gr. .270 slugs to shoot in any of my .277 cal rifles,and have gone threw 300 trying. I have one 30-06 that shoots the 165 interbond ok. Meanwhile the Accubonds shoot well with less pissing around in everything I tried them in except for that same 30-06 that shoots the interbonds ok.

I have to agree guys, I can't get the 7mm/154grIB to shoot in my 7mag or my .280, best I cab do is about 1.5" from rifles that will easily do half that w/ a Speer or NP. Anyone want half a box?

I never even tried the IB because the AB shot so well.

Well, I do know 180 NBTs aren't any more accurate than 180 IBs in 300WSM Brownings. Jay

The 130 gr. .277 IB shoots great out of my Pac-Nor tube, but then so do the 140 AB, and 150 Partition. This barrel just isn't picky.

I have had much better luck with the Accubonds. I tried all sorts of powders with the .308 165gr. Interbonds in my .30-06 with mediocre results. 150 gr and 180 gr Accubonds in .308 in the '06 with IMR 4350 gave me great accuracy. It may be that the rifle won't shoot that wieght of bullet well. 165 gr N.P.'s shot better than the Interbonds but neither could compare to the accuracy of the Accubonds.

Wonder if Nosler will make an Accubond 165 gr in .308?

I also found the 225 gr Accubonds in the .338 WM gave impressive results with IMR 4350.

Elk hunting site-in target, 100 yds. Cold rifles, two shots each. The top two holes are from the .338 WM. The bottom two are 180 grs. from the '06. I took the .338 WM. Complete pass through at 215 yds through chest. Budy shot a cow in the same herd at about 230 yds with Federal's 338 WM loading of the Accubond. Bullet was recovered next to hide on opposite side. Minimal expansion but good weight retention.[IMG:left] [/IMG]

Almost forgot, loaded some 225IBs for a 338WM, each test shot group was in the same area on the target,(3 different targets) and all the groups were under an inch, that impressed me. Jay

I must be one of the exceptions. My .338 Win liked 225 grain IBs much better than 225 grain ABs. In fact, I chose the IBs for this year's hunt in Africa. They worked quite well too, though not as good as triple shocks.

grizz:

While your groups are certainly good enough, their formation (two in almost one hole, the third high or low) is the same formation I have been seeing. The amount of verticle seems to depend on the rifles capacity for accuracy. While my 308 groups nearly the same as your WSM, my brothers 30/06 FWT will throw that odd flyer around 2" from the other two. These results make sense as my 308 will shoot in the .3's all day while his '06 is normally a + or - 1.5" rifle.

The thing that makes my case for me is that just by changing bullet, all that double grouping tendency goes away AND the overall group size gets cut in half. I've now tried three different lots of the .30 cal 165's and they all seem to do this. The AB on the other hand shoots .3 in my 25 WSSM, .5 in my .300 Win, 1" in the aforementioned 30/06 (best it's ever shot), and is showing .3-.5 potential in my Kimber 308.

While six rifles isn't enough to scientifically say for sure, the trend is mounting.

Gabe

Gabe, that's certainly enough rifles to see a trend! When I got those groups, I gave up on further testing. I went hunting instead!

If the AB was availablr in 165, I might try some to work up a load. I've tested the 180 AB directly against the 180 IB in water filled milk jugs. The AB expands less and looses more weight, but if they're more consistant, I might switch.

I'm also wondering about the new Federal fusion bullets. Basically a copper plated bullet, they say it'll expand well AND retain weight like a bonded bullet. I got some in 165 .308, pulled the bullets and loaded them in my 300 WSM. Now I find out the 300's are available at Sheels in Appleton! If I have the time tomorrow, I'll run some through some jugs to get a look at how they expand.