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Well here is what I did, I don't suppose I am the first but I feel like a real dunce.

Reloading my 270 winchester rounds for deer season. I get about a box loaded up and I discover that I totally messed up and used large pistol primers instead of my rifle primers. Whoops, stupid identical boxes (well all except the writing).

So my questions is can I use these rounds without any worry just to get them unloaded, or must I take them apart? Hate to do that, but does anyone have a safe fast way to do that?
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Posts: 28 | Location: Sun Prairie, WI | Registered: 11 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Pistol primers have thinner walls so they may not be able to handle the pressure of a 270.
Better to disassemble and deprime them. You have a choice of a collet type puller or an inertia type that looks like a hammer. Both will work ok for a box of 20 rounds.


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I like to have different brands of primers for different purposes; e.g., all my large pistol primers are Fed 155s (red box) and large rifle primers are GM210m (gold box). This makes it a lot easier to avoid situations such as your current pickle. Just my 2 cents...
 
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Shoot 'em. Not a big deal. For that matter, hunt with them.

A friend of mine likes to use pistol primers in his 06. Claims the softer ignition is better for certain loads. I've tried it a few times just as an experiment. As long as there are no pierced primers, don't worry about it.
 
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Well I'ff you decide to shoot 'em I would advise a really good set of safety glasses.
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Well I'ff you decide to shoot 'em I would advise a really good set of safety glasses.
JL.
This is excellent advise, especially if:
1. Your rifle is a M70 which is designed to allow the escaping gas from a pierced Primer to reach your eyes.
2. If your 270Win Loads are loaded to Pressures normally associated with 270Wins.
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Best to pull the bullets, dump the Powder, and replace the Primers with what is supposed to be in the Cartridges.

Just think of the wasted Time and effort as an Education Expense. Going through the Primer Replacement process will re-enforce the Lesson.

"Fast way" is not a good thing when Reloading, it enhances the potential for mistakes. If you are really in a BIG hurry, just buy some factory ammo, go sight in and correct the Reload problem after the hunt.
 
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Yeah, I've had a face full of gas before, it's not something you'll enjoy that much..... If that doesn't scare you, it might help to realize that a primer puncture often causes gas cutting on the bolt face, damaging your rifle.

For $20, the fix is cheap. No sense taking a risk. JMO, Dutch.


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Just curious. For a little time and a couple $$ why would you consider risking it. Sorry my eyes are worth far more than a couple $$. Take it as an educational expense.

There is a reason they make rifle and pistol primers not just do all primers.


As usual just my $.02
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Shoot 'em. Not a big deal. For that matter, hunt with them.

A friend of mine likes to use pistol primers in his 06. Claims the softer ignition is better for certain loads. I've tried it a few times just as an experiment. As long as there are no pierced primers, don't worry about it.


Good advise, and the pierced primer thing is a real posibility. Just wear glasses. boohooroger


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.... For a little time and a couple $$ why would you consider risking it. Sorry my eyes are worth far more than a couple $$. ....


Ditto. Bullets and brass aren't really that expensive. Do 'em over.

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Pistol primers have thinner walls so they may not be able to handle the pressure of a 270.
Better to disassemble and deprime them. You have a choice of a collet type puller or an inertia type that looks like a hammer. Both will work ok for a box of 20 rounds.


Ditto on what Bob G said. Pull the bullets, recover the powder, deprime CAREFULLY (or pop the primed cases in a rifle) then re-do.

I once experimented with pulled thin-jacketed varmint bullets in a very accurate .22-250 and groups remained around .5 MOA when reloaded. This was using a collet type bullet puller.

I would also point out that while the safety glasses might save your eyes, one pierced primer will leave permanent pits on your bolt face. Don't ask how I know this... Smiler

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This is how I got my TC cheap,,, the guy though "hey its a pistol why not load with pistol primmers ?" He was loading for 375 JDJ, Blow'n primmer every shot, sold it to me and I never told him why it did that to him, his lose my gain... The 270 is a high PSI round any way, so DONT shoot them, sorry.


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I would also point out that while the safety glasses might save your eyes, one pierced primer will leave permanent pits on your bolt face. Don't ask how I know this... Smiler

John


Yeah I had to replace the breach face on that TC as it look'd like he had tak'n an arc welder to it. But for the price that I got the gun for it wasn't that bad.


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Shoot 'em. Not a big deal.


That is without a doubt some of the poorest advise I have ever read on any forum.
 
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Guys,
Thanks for all the advise. I am going to the store to buy a bullet puller tonight. Gonna chalk it up to experience. Live and learn.
 
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I use my puller all the time. I work up loads reach pressure signs, real poor velocity etc. I just pull the bullets put the powder back in the CORRECT can and start over. I've never seen an accuracy problem with pulled bullets.


As usual just my $.02
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I am a lazy sucker. In fact I am so lazy that I am trying to figure out how to kive without breathing. I also really dislike wasting my time which is usually in quite short supply. I also own a collet puller and a kinetic puller. I'm not much of a gambler either! Roll Eyes derf


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I built that M-70 of yours and am not excitred to see it cause trouble.

Pull the bullets and install new primers.....it's not a big deal....just do it.

Now that I'm living in Wisconsin I'll just have to teach you to reload too......

What the hell degree did you get?


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I now have to shoot lefty due to an eye injury at 12. You can fix a rifle, but you can't have a new eye(s) installed.
Please, pull the bullets, or mash the cases. It's just not worth the risk.


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Ok I'll own up. Not long ago we read of the guy who mixed up his powders. Well I don't have different powders on my bench at the same time do I.
Don't even leave the one type in the measure for long.
But seeing as I was going to do some more soon I left some in, no problem there.

Then I did some house keeping and pulled some bullets out of something I didn't want any more.

What to do with this powder? Well tip it into the powder measure of course.
No sooner done than I realised I use 2206 in one cal and the other was 2208.

No system is fool proof when fools are about.
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No brainer - pull 'em down and reprime properly. You can salvage all the components, so nothing's been lost. Which is something I can't say if your rifle vents gas, KABOOMs or blinds you.

Catastrophic possibilities that can be easily avoided. Do it!

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... reading and writing this thread has consumed more time than redoing these 20 cartridges troll


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I keep each different primer type I use in seperate containers labled as such, i.e. LARGE PISTOL, LARGE RIFLE. Just like having only one can of powder on the bench at a time.
 
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