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I shot some loads I made containing 4.4grs of Titegroup and 180 XTPs, as well as 4.3 grs TG and hornady 180 lead bullets. The lead loads produced visible smoke when fired, but both loads produced sooty cases and dirty barrels. Is this typical with TG or whats the deal?


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1st I don`t load for the 40 S&W.
I do however use Titegroup in my 45acp and found it was "sooty" at lower pressure. I know the 40 operates at higher pressure then the 45 but you still might be a little on the low side for best burn.
The lube used on cast bullets will also add to the soot and smoke one gets when useing them. If you are trying a new brand that might be some of it too.


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I have no experience with titegroup, so take this for what you've paid for it, but I have found that in general a sooty case (especially if it is sooty on the outside but that is usually rifle cases) can be cleaned up by increasing the powder charge. As usual, don't go over max loads etc etc.. A sooty barrel can just be the result of the powder used and so I don't pay attention so much to that.


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I have no experience with titegroup, so take this for what you've paid for it, but I have found that in general a sooty case (especially if it is sooty on the outside but that is usually rifle cases) can be cleaned up by increasing the powder charge. As usual, don't go over max loads etc etc.. A sooty barrel can just be the result of the powder used and so I don't pay attention so much to that.

The issue w/ TG & other uberfast powders is the narrow loading range. I will not load uberfast powders in high pressure rounds at anything but mousefart levels. The smokey lead bullets is the lube used to keep leading to a minimum. All lubed lead bullets will smoke to some extent.


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I was under the impression that you wanted a powder that was very fast in autoloading pistols in order to properly cycle the slide. I usually use 180 gr bullets in this xd, what are some powders that work well in autoloaders?


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I use Unique in the 40S&W and 9mm; Red Dot in the 45ACP. I don't shoot lead so I can't speak to that however, the soot problem is minimal with my brass.
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I was under the impression that you wanted a powder that was very fast in autoloading pistols in order to properly cycle the slide. I usually use 180 gr bullets in this xd, what are some powders that work well in autoloaders?


I`d look at Unique or PowerPistol, something in that range.


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I was under the impression that you wanted a powder that was very fast in autoloading pistols in order to properly cycle the slide. I usually use 180 gr bullets in this xd, what are some powders that work well in autoloaders?

NOpe, you use uberfast powders for their economy & slight reduction, very slight, in recoil. A med. burner like Unqiue, WSF, Univesal, PP, HS^ works acorss a borader range of reloading across all the bullet wts. for any service pistol round.


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