I have recently freed up some funds for a new rifle ,I pose this question. I am looking for a long range varmit gun that is easy on the wallet to shoot, can be relaoded, and is somewhat accessable for ammo. I am considering a 223, 22-250 or 220 swift. What are the pros and coms of either. Thanks in advance and thanks for all the help so far, Things are working alot better for my reloading since I joined this forum

.223 wins on all counts unless you need to shoot more than 300 yds

Since you mentioned you want a long range varmint rifle I would hardily recommend the rifle be chambered in 22-250.

I also would readily recommend a Remington varmint model rifle. (700VS, 700VLS, XR-100. etc) They are a little heavy to carry around, but they generally shoot quite well right out of the box. They usually just need a good scope and a trigger job.

What do you mean by long range? 200-400 yards. the .22-250 & swift are both the superior to the .223. The 204 also bests the .223 easily at those distances.

If you mean over 100 yards, .223 is the cheapest do it all round, but the 204 is a close second.

If you mean 300-500+ forget the .22 and move to a 24, 25, 26. Extra bullet weight, less wind drift and high BC at those distances negate any advantage initially gained in velocity.

Savage 12bvss in 22-250. roger

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Savage 12bvss in 22-250. roger

I have the Savage in .223 and 22-250, I shoot the .223 the most, it's cheaper, and does most of what I need in a .22 centerfire. It also allows me the see my bullet strike, the 22-250 has enough recoil to move the scope off target.

22-250 in my opinion and I also think that you can flip a coin between a Remington and Savage. They are both great . The new guy on the block is CZ I have several they have great triggers out of the box all were less than 1/2 inch out of the box. I would be hard pushed to make a decission between any of the three.

O.K. I have to ask, Let me first say i own 2 savage rifles and they are both great performers. My 270 is my favorite gun overall. I also own a browning a bolt (not impressed with brownig at all) But I was thinking about buying a ruger this time. Why does everyone here recommend savage so highly? I own them because they are inexpensive and they seem to function well without any problems. Why does everyone here recommend them so highly?Is there something I dont know about savage?

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Savage 12bvss in 22-250. roger

well most of it is right but i'd go 22-250 ai in a savage. ai because you can still shoot factory ammo in it.

you can load a 22-250 down to 223 but ya can't load 223 up to 22-250 or 220swift standards.

cases for the 22-250 aren't that much more expensive uses the same bullets and if ten more grains of powder is gonna break the bank i suggest you get a part time job.

Savages are recommended for one reason. Generally they are great shooters. People like to knock the ugly nut and call then cheap junk because they cost less, but no one knocks the fact that your chance of getting a tack driver off the shelf is much better than any other brand.