I plan to develop a light load for my youngest son's Swedish Mauser m/95. It should have a mild recoil and its accuracy should correspond to the rifle's excellent repuation.

Although, under mathematical aspects (Greenhill Formula), the rifle's 1 in 7 1/2 twist should digest 140 grainers better than lighter bullets, I am looking for a fitting projectile to be used ahead of N 140. On my shortlist are
- Hornady V-MAX 95 grs
- Nosler BT 100 or 120 grs
- Lapua Scenar 108 grs

Which bullet would you recommend? What are your experiences? I'm excluding the Matchkings, Speer SPs and Remington HotCors, because our m/96 doesn't like them, at least in their heavier versions.

There is no reason the fast twist shouldn't do justice to lighter bullets.

For a light load the 100 grain BT at about 2,700'/sec will do fine.

Try about 41 grains of IMR 4350

If Vapo's load doesn't work, try a little faster powder like 3031. Works good in my old Swede with light bullets.

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Originally posted by Jennerwein:
I'm excluding the Matchkings, Speer SPs and Remington HotCors, because our m/96 doesn't like them, at least in their heavier versions.

That certainly is one strange Mod 96!!!??? roger

RL 7, 30 grains...

160 grain Sierra SMP or Hornady 160 Grain RN...

2100 fps...

recoil like a 243 or less.. especially in a Military Mauser stock...

very accurate, low recoil and also will penetrate like no tomorrow....

cheers
seafire

I question the entire premise that "light loads" are needed to "reduce" recoil in a Swede.

Next, no swede is an M95.
there are a few M94 Swedes and many M96 Swedes, but...


I find in feeding Swedes is that with their long throat long loaded lengths are a god thing.

Remember that with a given weight bullet a flat base bullet can be loaded just a bit longer than the same weight boattail....

It's fairly obvious that 140's can be loaded longer than 120's.

And I agree that a Swede that doesn't like long heavy bullets is an odd creature indeed.... (or someone is pulling our chain with a bogus post.)

I'd recommend that you work up to published max load
of RL22 and 140grain partitions this'll kill just about anything. (or if you prefer MAX of 43.0gr of IMR4350)
Recoil is still pretty soft and then you won't need to make corrections later on....

My sweds seem pretty much omniverous, meaning they shoot just about anything shoved inside them well.

AllanD

M95: Sorry, typing error! My paws are just too big for the keyboard.

Despite Allans post about no need to use a reduced load I think a reduced load for your boy would be a great thing. Start him off easy and as he's more comfortable then work him up. A 200 pound man feels a completely different recoil than an 80 pound boy no reason to hurt him. Light bullet and a reduced load will get him shooting a game rifle and build confidence like you can't believe.
I went to the Hodgdons powder website and they have plenty of info on reduced youth loads with H4895 powder. I used such loads for my son and his .284 shooting 120 then 130 grain bullets and he is working up towards full power loads as he grows.
Good luck and have fun with the boy!

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Originally posted by Snellstrom:
I think a reduced load for your boy would be a great thing. Light bullet and a reduced load will get him shooting a game rifle and build confidence like you can't believe.
Good luck and have fun with the boy!

I edited it a bit.....but that's it in a nutshell!!!!!!!~!!!

Thanks VAPO I couldn't have said it better.............oh wait I did say that, you just made it sound better!

Your very right though the bottom line is that the boy has fun and builds confidence, develops no bad habits.

If the goal is not to get a flinch..

The lightest and quietest I can think of would be 15 gr Blue Dot m 95 gr Vmax, 20k psi, 2,033 fps.

Put ear plugs AND hearing protector muffs on the kid. Part of recoil is the noise.

That is not a great deer load, but a place to start at the range.

Keep the kid feeling like he is in control, and is choosing when and how to work his shoulder up to something hotter.

Seafire's load will kill the deer.



My cousin got a flinch at age 14 from shooting a 30-30 at the range.

I got a flinch at age 49 from shooting a 20 ounce 45acp pistol with 460 Rowland loads and a 12 pound recoil spring.

It takes a lot longer to get rid of a flinch than it takes to get one.

I'd go with the 120 Nosler BT or the 129 Hornady, even if it meant giving up a little accuracy to do it. (You would not be giving up a lot if my 96 is anything to go by.) Either bullet will reduce recoil and both will still expand at reduced velocities. Some of those 140s are a bit tough even at normal velocities.

I'd start with 25 grains of either of the 4198 and either of the bullets. That's still a deerkiller out to about 150 yards.

Jennerwein there are A of loadind books out there that have reduced loads in them, Hodgdon 26th,Lyman 48th, My personal favorite is Unique, with a Remington corlock 140gr. slow but, shoots like A 223 Rem. Young shooters do well with it. The 6.5x55 dosen't have much recoil anyway so full power loads use RL#22 or H-4350 those have worked well for me .

A load I stumbled on for my Howa in 6.5x55 is 42.5 gr of IMR-4350 with the Hornady 129 gr SP. Pretty mild recoil, chronographs around 2400 fps, and was very accurate. If your swede shoots lighter bullets accurately, then the Hodgdon youth loads might work well. (My Howa won't group decently with anything lighter or shorter than the 129 gr Hornady)