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A good friend of mine wants to start reloading his own .38 pistol rounds and .303 and .308 as well. The only thing is the fact he is seriously forgetful and not technical at all. So what tools would you all think the most fool proof and easy to use? He has nothing yet and will have to buy everything from scratch. All advice is welcome. "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | ||
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loading manuals....tell this person to read a few, and make sure this is what they want to do. I have one of those RCBS brass prep stations. I think it was $80 new. I'll give it to him but he has to pay shipping. It is not new but barely used. When we moved, I couldn't find it so I bought another one. Found the original later. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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I got my start on an RCBS Rockchucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit. I've added a few specialty tools here and there, but for the most part, I'm still using the original equipment. Also, like Doc said, reloading manual, lots and lots of them. Praise be to the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. | |||
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As was said, manuals and read em, the ABCs of Reloading would be a good one to start him on in addition to the reloading manuals. http://www.midwayuk.com/apps/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?SaleItemID=738288 http://home.earthlink.net/~dannewberry/dannewberrysopti...development/id7.html | |||
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Yes by all means a manual or two or more. I'd also say go single stage as even doing one round at a time enough stuff can go wrong. I think for the money and customer service,RCBS is the way to go. | |||
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The very most basic setup is the lee loader and dipper. I started with it many years ago. A better choice is probably a basic press and powder scale. Slow powders will be harder for him to screw up and hurt himself with.....but this hobby is governed by natural law. Get a manual, read and heed. Sierra, Hornady, Lee, Nosler.....lots of good ones out there. Remember bullets are not interchangeable even of the same weight. Cheers, Dan | |||
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In as much as you are not the first one to go this route on this form ,I've given this a little thought.For starters Well any way that's the cake you can frost it as time goes by. roger Old age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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This is not a good match with reloading. | |||
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Thanks a lot everyone great help, I'll make sure he's as safe as poss. I think I'll get him on the books first. "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | |||
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I second the RCBS Master Reloading Kit, It has pretty much every thing one needs to start. I strongly recomend staying away from a progressive press for starting, especialy if he is "forgetfull and not technical". Its far to easy to not charge, double charge, crush brass, prime poorly, or even run out of primers on a progressive under the best of circumstances. Not to mention that changing calibers costs alot more for a new shell plate on a progressive. A case tumbler if he isnt using carbide dies or just wants to make the proccess more pleasant. A hand primer, anything but Lee should be good. Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron "They were not killing each other under Saddam."-Saaed | |||
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If he is forgetful, tell him to keep notes of the various steps: 1. wipe cases, 2,deprime, 3. etc, and (this should apply to all reloaders) reloading time is not social time nor work time nor mind the kiddies time. Clear his mind of work and family concerns, turn off the ball game, and concentrate on what he is doing. Don't try to multitask but work with one group of cartridges at a time from start to finish. If he can't go from start to finish, leave himself notes about where he had to leave off, etc. He is not alone. There are a lot of us dumbasses roaming the planet. | |||
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If he is easily distracted set up his reloading equipment in a quiet out of the way room, without any distractions. Work with him until he has a fool proof systematic method. Will take a few sessions, but if you really like this guy it will be a good investment. Good Luck You don't have to be the best shot....Just the last shot. | |||
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WTF, what's wrong with the Lee "hand primer"? | |||
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Seriously don't overlook this intel. I'd speculate he's better off buying bulk factory ammo....but good procedures and good coaching can overcome a lot..convey this to him--strongly
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Ever since RCBS deleted the priming system from their press I no longer recommend it as the "go to" press. I still want a press with a primer arm and feeder in it and would now suggest the Lyman or possibly Redding's press.....possibly Lee's new iron press. I'm very disappointed in this decision by RCBS! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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They are made out of cheap materials and wear out. Maybe they are OK for limited use but I wore one out to the point it wouldn't seat a primer flush, and yes I did keep it propery lubed. They also are far less comfortable to my hands than the RCBS models. I do load quite a bit though so maybe if you don't reload much you can get by with one for a while. To me a better choice is to buy one that won't wear out......................DJ ....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!.................. | |||
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+1 RiflemanZ The RCBS kit is IMHO the best way to get started in reloading. It has everything you need except caliber particulars and is of good quality. I've recommended it to a couple beginning reloaders and have had glowing reports of thier success as new reloaders with it. I got my start with the same thing 31 years ago. Reloading isn't rocket science so if your friend is willing to concentrate and follow the instructions he should be fine. But the other posters have brought up some valid concerns, if he's not willing to focus on what he's doing steer him away from things that are dangerous to the careless......................DJ ....Remember that this is all supposed to be for fun!.................. | |||
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Not only is it made out of really cheap materials, it is about as uncomfortable a tool as I have ever used. I have large hands and it gets painful to use after priming about 50 or so cases, and I feel real pain after 200 or so. It also does not have much sensitivity, so its hard to get that feel for when you have compressed the primer cup down onto the anvil properly and consistanly. I give it 2/10 on a 10 point scale, and thats mostly for its small size and primer flipper, which seems to work very nicely. Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron "They were not killing each other under Saddam."-Saaed | |||
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The Specialist ; A question do you think he or she will be a volume loader ?. If the person in question intends to do several different calibers and loads enough , yet wants to do so in a shorter period of time . Then a indexable press is the way to fly . I have at one time or another owned EVERY brand of reloading press !. I sold them ALL and settled on a Dillon System !. I've never regretted that decision !. 550 , 650 or ??. Shot Straight Know Your target . ... | |||
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Nothing wrong with the lee auto prime, I've loaded l000s on the current one I'm using and I don't lube it often. Reloader | |||
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I would get the Lee clasic turret take the auto index out and teach him to do batch reloading.the turret can be setup with Lee disc powder measure and do loading by batch.load the cart for target use. not how powerful you can get them.a turret plate for each caal and powder measure for each.the cost with Lee will be low I use lee prime tool[have three].never had problem and I have had them since Lee put them on market.I decap/clean/size/prime/powder/seat bullet-crip I v loaded since 1939.on win tool. | |||
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I'm what I would call a medium to high volume reloader. I shoot some rifle matches but no pistol action matches nor do I like to go out with my little black gun and rock and roll. All that said, I've had no problems with my Lee Auto Primes. They are inexpensive enough to keep a back up on hand and if something goes wrong, toss it and go to your extra. I've never had to and I've loaded thousands of rounds, large and small primers. | |||
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Once again thanks for all the great info. I've got him "The ABCs of reloading" and he has enough cash to buy good gear and setup a nice reloading station at home, his daughter has now grown up and moved out. He knows he is forgetful and is very careful when handling guns, I feel safer when out shooting with him than with many guys who have been shooting for years. "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | |||
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It's really helpful to keep a Reloading Log. One may note case manf., bullet type, bullet weight, powder type, powder weight, type of sizing die, etc., etc., etc., all the specifics of the process. And range results. I think this is mandatory? flaco N.B. I know this is helpful for the memory challenged among us. | |||
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